after everything i've read on here and heard from my brother-inlaw, i was sure that i would just feed my jungles mice. but i ran out of f/t mice and had a some f/t rat wienlings in the freezer ( they are for my ball pythons) so i offered one to my female jungle she struck it like normal and quickly let go, and she looked at me like i was retarded for even trying. but within a few sec she just started chowing down. i had never tried before because of all the problems i've heard from everyone else. so i guess i wrote all this to say, don't let everyone else's problems keep you from at least trying it out.