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Monitor Basics, part 4

FR Sep 27, 2003 10:44 AM

How important is basking???????not as much as you would think.

When we talk about heat or hotspots, newbies think of basking. IF the come out and bask, all is great. Is that correct?

In truth, basking is a small part of thermoregulation. Thermoregulation is, reptiles regulating their temps. Very simple hey. Remember to relate this to part 3.

Basking is the rarest and most dangerous of monitors thermoregulating methods. Think of it like this, go downtown(any large U.S. city) and have money hanging out of your pockets and just sit all night on the sidewalks in the open. How would you feel. Now do that everynight. Are we talking stress here? While monitors bask, its risky and unsafe.

There are many methods reptiles thermoregulate. Most are hidden. They can seek heat in many ways that does not require them to be out in the dangerous open. Like in burrows close to the surface of the earth, or under bark or in thin hollow limbs or branches, all of these if in the sun will get very hot. They seek cool(conservation) temps, by going deeper in the ground, large hollows with thick wood around them or inside trees deep into the ground. Remember, these are just a few examples to show that they can indeed thermoregulate, without exposing themselves to danger.

So keep in mind, when a monitor basks in the open, it simply means, its need to thermoregulate, outweights its need for security. That has many meanings, like its hidden thermoregulating areas are not working, they are wet and cold, etc. Or thru experience, it considers an open basking area, safe.

What does safe mean and how does that work? First, ask anyone who has molested monitors in nature(caught them) Monitors always have a series of safe places close by an open basking area. They also, do not consider open areas, safe. They enter these areas slowly and carefully. They also stay alert to danger.

Of course, I bring these up to hopefully help you realize, that monitors need more then a hotspot for a basking area, they need a combination of hiding areas and open areas to bask without stress. We try to acomplish this thru the use of "retes" stacks, burrows, hollow logs, etc.

Part 4a. hahahahahahahaha, ok ok, I should not put this here, but I am that mean nasty fella who always pi$$es you off.

Many of you see problems that seemingly come out of nowhere. The monitors are doing great, in your opinion, eating growing, etc. Then all of a sudden, they stop. They get infections not related to any obvious injury or cause. Respitory infections, bumps and tumors, general infections, etc. Many(most) times in these cases, Vets have no idea what the cause is, and prescribe general preventive medicine.

The cause is simply a longterm acumulation of low to medium grade stress that causes the immune system to shut down. Just think of how you would feel if you had to do something stressful everyday of your life. hahahahahahahaha sorry, many people do that and have the same results. Remember, high grade stress, is easy to see, those individuals will not eat or function at all. Is one more dangerous then the other? F
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Replies (4)

Jody P. Sep 27, 2003 02:40 PM

Well I have been trying to reply to your posts, but I am having a hard time in how to approach it. I have read and re read them and cannot find to much to add to them.

Keep up the good work hopefully everyone will read your posts and learn from them. Your giving out good information that alot of people for some reason forget to think of or have not taken the time to learn.

Nice picture by the way Looks like my reptiles today they are all down too. But the weather today here in south FL. is pretty hot so they have good reason to be seeking shelter.
Current temp.: 91°F
Feels Like: 100°F
UV Index: 8 High
Humidity: 55%
Visibility: Unlimited

bengalensis Sep 27, 2003 06:14 PM

You know Frank, you remind me of the contrast between the old and new testiments. First there was the God that was all pissed off and making floods and fires and having guys kill their kids off, and then latter became all loving and benevolent. Ive only been posting since around April of '02, but in thaqt span of time, Ive seen the transition on this forum.
Please dont take this too seriously....just a comedic interpretation

Michellle

bengalensis Sep 27, 2003 07:49 PM

Im not sure what post it was that you mentioned that you keep all your babies in 10 gal aquiariums for a while after hatching. Could you give a couple examples of lenghts of time for a couple different species, and also how you have these smaller enclosures set up? Maybe even some pictures, if you would be so kind? Ive never really seen any large scale monitor breeding facility, and truthfully, Im completely fascinated by it all. How fun it must be to design it all and then see it work! You really must feel like a god of sorts. I know I would!

All the best,
Michelle

FR Sep 27, 2003 10:49 PM

People around here are freaky and start thinking and all of a sudden they think I said that. I am indeed no god, of anykind.

I have said this before, in nature monitors are breeding, day in and day out, thru millions of years, under all kinds of horrible conditions. No,I don't feel special allowing monitors to do what they normally do.

About the 10 gallon tanks, I build that rack in 91 when I hoped i would hatch babies. I did, it works and its still working. Thats sorta a wonder. I have no set time or schedule as to how long they are there. I just sorta say, heck its time or you to move to another cage or someone elses house. Really thats about how techy it gets.

Also, while I do produce some monitors, we are nothing like the large reptile breeding facilities that exsist. Goanna Ranch is a one man operation. And I breed mice and crickets too.

Keeping monitors is not even my main reptile interest, wild reptiles are. but thanks anyway F

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