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In the next couple years we should see all kinds of new multi morphs of the nelsoni/siniloan complex.With the color and pattern mutations now established we should see some incredible animals produced.
Probably not this year but for 2012 we should see some t plus animals that are het for splotched and some that are het for hypo-e (pumpkin) and because the t plus is co-dom ( at least on the amel allele)I should be able to produce a patternless t plus that is het for splotched and or pumpkin.
Since the Seib line of v.p. or patternless is a true co-dom we will also see pumpkins that are paternless or almost anyway.

Here are a couple animals in the works.Still not sure the exact combos I am going to do but I have all the ingredients to produce a triple or even a quad homo in just a few short years due to the co-dom (skip a generation )affect.
Enjoy......

the stud and main ingredient to all these morphs.

this is a albino hypo-e (or albino pumkin).These animals took many years to produce because of the two simple recessive genes at work.Thanks again Don.Just love these guys.

patternless t plus I produced in (09).

albino splotched,this is another pretty new double homo on the scene.

here is a spotted t-plus I also produced in (09) by throwing my breeder t plus on my own line of co-dom aberrant.I am sure the t plus splotched won't look much different but it should still have the pied head and pied tail and thats what I can't wait to see.

I even have some hypo nelsoni but I am not sure it would change the look of the t plus because it would probably just be masked.
I do think that the t plus pumkin will look very different because the hypo-e doesn't really get masked by the amel as a hypo would.Only time will tel but it will be fun.

I can hardley wait to just see a splotched pumpkin.and then to build a albino splotched pumkin.sky is the limit in the future.

L8r Shannon

I am lucky enough to have received several T-Pos snakes from you Shannon, and will also be breeding into my huge stock of Hypo-E and Aberrant/Splotched lines. Also will be cool to see if the normal and Amel siblings turn out to be Het for the T-Pos, as I have several of those from you!
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Scott MacLeod
2.6 Snow Hondurans
1.1 Aberrant Snow Hondurans
2.4 Aberrant Hondurans
1.3 Aberrant Tangerine Hondurans
1.2 Aberrant Hypo Hondurans
0.1 Aberrant Hybino Honduran
1.3 Extreme Hypo VP
1.1 Tricolor Hypo VP
0.1 Hypo E Sinaloan
1.0 Het Hypo E & Amel Sinaloan
0.1 Amel het Hypo E and Splotched
1.1 Albino Striped Sinaloan
2.7 Striped Splotched Sinaloan
1.2 Poss Het T pos Sinaloan
1.2 T pos Sinaloan

Yeah, you have some very nice stuff for sure.I am sure like me you are just itching to get some of these things on the ground and crawling huh? LOL....

L8r Shannon

For sure! I wont have anything large enough to breed for this season, they were slow starters...but next season I have LOTS of work for the boys!
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Scott MacLeod
2.6 Snow Hondurans
1.1 Aberrant Snow Hondurans
2.4 Aberrant Hondurans
1.3 Aberrant Tangerine Hondurans
1.2 Aberrant Hypo Hondurans
0.1 Aberrant Hybino Honduran
1.3 Extreme Hypo VP
1.1 Tricolor Hypo VP
0.1 Hypo E Sinaloan
1.0 Het Hypo E & Amel Sinaloan
0.1 Amel het Hypo E and Splotched
1.1 Albino Striped Sinaloan
2.7 Striped Splotched Sinaloan
1.2 Poss Het T pos Sinaloan
1.2 T pos Sinaloan

looks like a fantastic project. Hard to pick a favorite.

--Dennis

....chocolatey-licious....

love that color on the StudMan...

the spotted T plus is cool also...gives it another whole dimension to the colors and all...yet still the cool browns....

good luck....!!!...sweet stuff......!...congrats man....

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........JY

Me too man!!!,....

Hard not to love that totally kick-ass chocolatey "stud muffin"..LOL!

I just recieved some kids today that were sired by Shannon's "Mr. Goodbar" there myself.

thanks a bunch Shannon!!

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

LMAO!!!!! I love it.Thats what I will call him now."MR. GOODBAR"

That rules,
L8r

LOL!!!,..yeah, that name fits him prfectly man!

And what a smoker specimen he is meristic-wise too dude!!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

picture a big fat old nelson's female...in May West's voice...."wanna come over to my place , Big Boy?"...oooh...

.....dang snake gets more play then all of us....it is not fair....

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........JY

Ain't it the TRUTH!!

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

and absolutely fantastic looking animals! It goes without saying that I spent the better half of nearly 12 years devoting my time and focus in helping create and establish some of the finest nelsoni/sinaloae around. I take great pride in this.

And as you and others know, I recently let go of my entire group of these color/pattern mutations to pursue other interests. So, in this, it makes me proud to see friends like yourself, Don Shores, Scott MacLeod and a few others help continue to develop and preserve what I worked so hard towards accomplishing. The future is certainly exciting and again, many thanks for the ongoing compasion for these spectacular animals.

Although I am thoroughly enjoying my solid collection of locality graybands, pyros and select wild-type triangulum, I would be completely lying if I said I didn't sometimes miss the collection of odd-balls I once had.
Happy New Year!!

Nathan Wells

You can always jump back in someday bro.
Thanks for the kind words,
L8r Shannon