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Well I can't sleep so I thought I would ask this question. If a Hypo floridana and a Flame floridana have the same hypo gene, then what makes a Flame a Flame? Is it just the look of the snake, pattern more color. What?
Thanks for any information.
Also I was thinking of getting the book called Genetics by Charles Pritzel. I have his 2009 book Cornsnake Morph Guide.
Once again thanks for any input.
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Tom S
1.1 Flame Lampropeltis getla Floridana
1.0 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
0.1 Axanthic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
0.1 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis
1.0 Anerythristic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis

>>Well I can't sleep so I thought I would ask this question. If a Hypo floridana and a Flame floridana have the same hypo gene, then what makes a Flame a Flame? Is it just the look of the snake, pattern more color. What?
>> Thanks for any information.
>> Also I was thinking of getting the book called Genetics by Charles Pritzel. I have his 2009 book Cornsnake Morph Guide.
>>Once again thanks for any input.

The Flame Hypo is just a line bred trait to produce a more reddish looking Floridana.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

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Chuck's book has some great info to help you understand the genetics.

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Like John stated, they are simply a line-bred trait that is expressing substantially more red pigmentation(erythrins. So the hypo gene itself is the exact same in both, only the other equation of more red pigment is due to hyper-erythrism which is totally different from the "like" hypo gene they both posess. The erythrophores(red pigment cells) simply produce an over-abundance of red pigment, hence the literal term..."hyper-erythrism"

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

if I get this.
1) the Hypo brooks is a (genetic trait)
2) The Flame Brooks was created by using the hypo Brooks.
3) The Flame is Hyper-erythrism.
I am I on the right track??
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Tom S
1.1 Flame Lampropeltis getla Floridana
1.0 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
0.1 Axanthic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
0.1 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis
1.0 Anerythristic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis

...100% correct!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

1) the Hypo brooks is a (genetic trait)

Yes (BUT to confuse you even more they are called HypoMELANISTIC (reduced black pigmentation) but the black is till black on these snakes)

2) The Flame Brooks was created by using the hypo Brooks.

Not exactly... Hypomelanistic-Flames/Flame Hypos results from line-breeding specimen with more red in the hope of producing snakes that hold their red/orange color into adulthood.

(here's a nice Male flame line hypo het Lavender)

3) The Flame is Hyper-erythrism.

Hypomelanistic-Flames/Flame Hypos are not HYPER-erytheristic just high red/orange Hypomelanistics

These MAY be Hypererytheristics:

~ZF

WOW sweet looking Kings! How do you know the Super Flame isnt a Hypo? It has many of the markers a Hypo would have such as the labial scale pattern being more solid than a normal.

Bone

We know that the "Super Flames" aren't hypo because the 1st one that poped up had no hypo gene in the mix (Parents were not carriers)

Here's a hypo from this line... but it's a "low grade" hypo... the really nice ones are completely RED head to tail.

Non-Hypo: As you can see the hypo lightens up the Flame

~ZF