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unreal extreme (no flash)

DMong Jan 19, 2011 01:38 PM

Sorry to post this one again, but every single time I lift this guys hide box and lay eyes on him, I am totally blown away at just how insanely gorgeous this male 2009 hold-back is.

I have some great looking specimens of many different types and bloodlines of snakes, but this dude has GOT to be probably my very favorite in my entire collection quite possibly!!

For some reason getting the true oranges/tangerines to be displayed in photos has always been a real pain in the arse for me, and they can usually tend to look far redder than they actually are in real life. So when I took this pic the other day and saw how accurately it depicts the animal, and how nice it turned out, I just had to post it again..LOL!

See, just another fabulous thing about this guy that I absolutely LOVE!, is his nice calm, easy-going demeanor, and right out of the freakin egg too. And a voracious feeder that ALWAYS feeds like clock-work simply adds up for him to be just an absolute pleasure to own. His parents are great and easy-going too.

Anyway, thanks for looking once again everyone. I am just floored every single time I look at him, I just can't help it!..LOL!

~Doug


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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Replies (30)

gerryg Jan 19, 2011 03:38 PM

Now who could fault you for being the proud "dad" of such a handsome animal... but I'm more partial to that grey/silver banding.

I've considered taking a few pics of my polyz with the new Fujifilm HS-10 I just picked up to test it out... think you just made up my mind on whether or not I should post pics of them again so soon

Do you name your snakes and if so what's his?

Gerry

DMong Jan 19, 2011 06:37 PM

Now who could fault you for being the proud "dad" of such a handsome animal... but I'm more partial to that grey/silver banding.

I've considered taking a few pics of my polyz with the new Fujifilm HS-10 I just picked up to test it out... think you just made up my mind on whether or not I should post pics of them again so soon

Do you name your snakes and if so what's his?

Oh, there is no DOUBT that his exceptionally light silvery/grey banding is his definite strong-point, I most definitely agree. Out of the countless shots I ve taken of him in the past however, it has been tough to accurately depict the orange and tangerine colors as well as exactly how light his silver/grey rings are. It seems that me getting both of these features in a good posed shot of him has been quite a challenge for me since I have had him, so that is why I like this shot so much. It looks just like him in real life finally, so I am a happy camper..LOL!

Heck yeah!,....I'd love to see more pics of your Ballard line polyzona with your new camera!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

denbar Jan 19, 2011 03:56 PM

He is truly a beauty, Doug. I sounds like he is the "PERFECT" snake in every way.

--Dennis

DMong Jan 19, 2011 06:40 PM

Thanks Dennis!.....yeah, I personally think he really is the "perfect" extreme hypo in every single way possible.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

bigtman Jan 19, 2011 04:32 PM

Very nice Doug
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Tom S
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DMong Jan 19, 2011 06:41 PM

Thanks Tom!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

KcTrader Jan 19, 2011 07:27 PM

Great looking hondo there Doug! I am sure he will produce some nice looking babies for you! Hopefully all those traits get passed on too!
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Jimmy Tintle

DMong Jan 20, 2011 10:18 AM

Thanks Jimmy!,.......I am sure he will produce some gorgeous top-shelf offspring in the future!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

rodneyj Jan 19, 2011 10:09 PM

....thanks for the pic!!!!!!!!

DMong Jan 20, 2011 10:23 AM

Thanks Rodney!,...

Yeah, I know you were interested in seeing some good shots of extreme's without a flash a while back. And this one clearly displays how nice he is. I know you also have a good eye for what is killer and what is just typical stuff, so I really appreciate the compliment on him bro. My opinion is the exact same,.....just an incredible looking extreme!!!!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

a153fish Jan 19, 2011 11:28 PM

That's a great picture but your right they are so much better in person! He's looking great Doug.
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J Sierra

DMong Jan 20, 2011 10:26 AM

Thanks Jorge!,......yes, you got a good personal gander at this dude and some others a while back..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Bigtattoo Jan 20, 2011 04:37 AM

Great shot Doug and as I said when you posted a pic of him earlier, simply stunning and I still love his platinum bands.

I don't think you've mentioned if you have a comparable female to mate him with.
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BigT
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DMong Jan 20, 2011 10:14 AM

Thanks Big T!,......

Yes, I have a whole slew of killer animals of different genetic morphs and characteristics that I can breed him to. For just extreme hypos alone, I can breed him back to his nice looking mother, as well as a hold-back female sibling of his from the same clutch as well.

I have since sold several awesome extremes from past clutches, as well as this last seasons, and I maybe should have kept one of the females, but as we all know,...ya just can't keep everything all the time..LOL!.

Here is the mother and a smokin ghost just for two possibilities when the time comes. I will try to get some good pics of his female sibling up too. She is a bit darker as many females typically are, but she was actually held-back for her vivid insanely contrasting two-toned orange and tangerine coloration that is similar to the mother. Most extreme hypos tend to be more bicolored with the tangerine orange as opposed to the awesome accentuating two-toned orange coloration that I am striving to selectively breed. Many of the offspring have indeed displayed the cool two-toned orange/tangerine of the mother, so that is just fabulous in my opinion.

~Doug

A pic of her as a youngster......

and as a big adult.....

a sweet adult "M. Bailey" ghost that was also featured in Terry Dunham's 12 page article in the 2011 annual "Reptiles USA" magazine.....she is one of the nicest looking adult ghosts that I have ever seen to date!

here is another not so great pic of another one that was sold. The snake is actually MUCH more tangerine-colored than the photo depicts though, which is a common problem for my camera sometimes for some reason, but the bands were VERY extreme as you can see nonetheless!

cheers!, ~Doug


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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

markg Jan 20, 2011 12:00 PM

That mom is stunning. A milf to a male milksnake.

Geez, I'd consider keeping a Honduran if it looked like that.
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Mark

DMong Jan 20, 2011 01:52 PM

LOL!!,....yeah, she is considered a definite "MILF" by the other males for sure!..LMAO!! .....too funny Mark!

Her two-toned accentuating orangish-red/tangerine colors are just unbelievable man!

A guy in Italy wanted to buy her, but I told him...."uh,.that's a definite NO-CAN-DO!" under any circumstance!...

Glad you like her Mark!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

shannon brown Jan 20, 2011 02:38 PM

Insane man, probably the best extreme I have ever seen.Is the trio I got from you in (09) all siblings to him? They are turning out very nice as well.I would for sure breed him back to his mother next year man.

I have several nice females that would work well with him also.Maybe in a year or two we will hook them up to see what we can get.
Here is a hybino that has the two tone look.

Or maybe hooking him up with this pinner hybino would be cool too.

or even this extreme thats het anery.She has more tipping than your male but thats usually the case with females.She has that same two tone of orange.

and that Bailey ghost you have is outstanding as well man.We should hok these two up man.

L8r Shannon

DMong Jan 20, 2011 03:23 PM

Yeah, the ones you got from me in '09 are direct siblings of the killer male hold-back I first posted, and are from this same killer adult female I posted and the very same Falcon male father that produced every single extreme and ultra-light to date so far. I will introduce this extreme gene into my ghost line too this coming season. I would have done it last season but I was busy trying to prone-out a poss. pearl with all three of my ghost females, but unfortunately didn't work out real well. It was really disappointing man, but sh** happens as we all know..LOL!

Yeah Shannon, some of that stuff you have there would go together like ham & eggs with these extremes bro!..LOL!

That one looks so damn similar to my female it is just ridiculous too. Every time I have seen it, it is virtually like looking at my own female..LOL!

I just measured her a little bit ago, and she is 59" inches now, and nice and stocky. Not bad for only being an '07 animal. She was real big for her age and bred successfully when she was just two her first time, and gave nice big clutches both times since, so she is a great animal to own.

Man, I know, that Bailey ghost is just un-freakin real!. When she is put next to most other adult ghosts, she makes them look like sick freakin anery's..LMAO!! Her ultra-wide "50-50" rings, pinner dark rings, and her light "over-spray", or "newsprinting" in the wide inner rings don't ugly her up one bit compared to other ghosts with typical strong black true scale tipping.

Yeah, we will keep some of those possibilities in mind there for sure!

gosh,......the possibilities!..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

a153fish Jan 20, 2011 06:51 PM

Hey Doug, what is the minimum length/size for a female Hondo to breed? I have two 09's and I'm not sure if they will be good this year or should i wait another? I don't weigh my snakes so they are around 36 inches right now and are still cooling so they will grow a bit more before they breed.
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DMong Jan 20, 2011 07:51 PM

Well, it's sort of difficult to put a real number on it, but I have had a few pretty small ones breed and lay eggs successfully. When they are smaller, but still very healthy and of good weight for their size, they will simply lay smaller diameter eggs(as per their own body diameter), and will be longer is all to make up the difference. The small female I bred this last season had monster long eggs, and HUGE babies!!

This was the small '08 mother.....

This was her long "banana"-shaped clutch(remember that post?..LOL!)

An this was them hatching......

Now I don't recommend necessarily breeding "tiny" females, but if they are of good weight and about 40 inches or so, I don't see a real problem I wouldn't think. But you could of course wait another year. It's really a judgement call.

Now I WILL say that if they ovulate to begin with, then that is natures way of saying her body is basically ready ANYWAY. Know what I mean?. If she was tiny and doing poorly, nature would likely "cancel" the show, and wait for a better time..LOL!

Good luck with it bro!

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

a153fish Jan 20, 2011 08:00 PM

Yeah, I agree with all you said. I think they will be good to go. I am really excited about them and I'm just cautiously anxious, lol.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

DMong Jan 20, 2011 08:11 PM

Yeah, as you already know, just "poor the coals" to the female especially in a while when they are eating again, and they should be fine. Mine usually breed a bit later here anyway than some other folks for some reason anyway, so they will have a good while to get more good weight and a bit more length by then too........good luck!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Bigtattoo Jan 20, 2011 04:40 PM

Geez Shannon that first hybino is blinding. OMFG. Do you have to wear shades while caring for her?

The rest are awesome too but she just takes the cake.
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shannon brown Jan 21, 2011 03:18 PM

Thanks man, you should see her in person.She simply blows away all the rest that I have produced.

L8r

Bigtattoo Jan 20, 2011 04:38 PM

Corky!!!! Love that pic bro.

Momma is sure a looker too I can see why all the boys like her, tramp. LOL

I noticed and admire the orange/tangerine contrast. But to me the real killer is the platinum bands. Just not a color you see in snakes very often.

The baby is pretty striking too.

That ghost is pretty cool with the white bands w/ newsprinting and the clean cream bands.
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BigT
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DMong Jan 20, 2011 05:28 PM

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Corky!!!! Love that pic bro.

Momma is sure a looker too I can see why all the boys like her, tramp. LOL

I noticed and admire the orange/tangerine contrast. But to me the real killer is the platinum bands. Just not a color you see in snakes very often.

The baby is pretty striking too.

That ghost is pretty cool with the white bands w/ newsprinting and the clean cream bands

Thanks Big T!,...I totally agree with you on all counts there. The absolute TRUE epitome of an extreme hypo is DEFINITELY the degree of light silvery/grey/platinum colored rings, and strong neon/pumpkin oranges.

Glad you like the others there too. I wish the deli cup pic would have turned out like the snake really looks like, it was also second to none, but in the pic it looks duller than it really was. Too bad, because it was also one that I sold, so no more pics of that one..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

Sunherp Jan 21, 2011 11:16 AM

Gorgeous animal, Doug! Like I told you the other day, congrats on the Yucatan animals, too!

-Cole

DMong Jan 21, 2011 12:46 PM

Thanks a bunch there buddy!!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

RG Jan 21, 2011 01:20 PM

Yeah...awesome stuff for sure Doug!

You have a great group you're working with my friend!

-Rusty

DMong Jan 21, 2011 01:56 PM

Thanks Rusty!,....

And YOU sure as heck do too!. It's a great, fun comradery for sure bro!........wouldn't trade it for the world!

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -serpentinespecialties.webs.com

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