This pair came from the same county, same road, less than 8 miles apart. Take a shot and see if you can guess the locality...
First, the female...
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Guess the locality
westernNC
Jan 30, 2011 12:18 PM
Replies (14)
westernNC
Jan 30, 2011 12:20 PM
I am amazed at the variation here...should give it away...
Thanks for looking.
Michael
RossCA
Jan 30, 2011 12:25 PM
Its tough to say but they look like nigrita X californie intergrades. Possibly splendida in the mix as well. Looks like SE Arizona kingsnakes.
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DMong
Jan 30, 2011 02:23 PM
Going by the phenotypes, I would also say probably southeastern Arizona. Quite possibly Pima, Santa Cruz, or neighboring Cochise counties.
But there are other areas that have that similar look too as many know. I also see a two, or even a very likely three-way composite there.
Cool snakes BTW!!
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing" 
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Jlassiter
Jan 30, 2011 10:36 PM
Looks like a Tucson, AZ getula......
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John Lassiter
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DMong
Jan 31, 2011 12:18 AM
Yeah, it could easily be from there too, as Tuscon is directly north of Santa Cruz county by less than 35 miles. And that phenotype is all over that entire southern Arizona area in different pockets.
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -Serpentine Specialties
greg_huston
Jan 31, 2011 07:37 AM
I doubt those snakes are from anywhere east of the Santa Ritas, which rules out about half of Santa Cruz County and all of Cochise. East of the Santa Ritas it is mostly typical splendida.
DMong
Jan 31, 2011 10:51 AM
I would tend to strongly agree with you about eastern Santa Cruz and Cochise gradually getting more into the stronger splendida phenotype intergrades, as well as genuine splendida from there and beyond.
I will personally go with Pima County being highly likely, and just possibly into western Santa Cruz county.
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -Serpentine Specialties
Greg_Huston
Jan 30, 2011 11:36 PM
Somewhere's between Tucson and Nogales- Santa Cruz Valley
Joe Forks
Feb 01, 2011 08:23 AM
>>Somewhere's between Tucson and Nogales- Santa Cruz Valley
we used to call em speedway kings
westernNC
Jan 31, 2011 08:05 AM
answer to come within the next 24 hours...
westernNC
Feb 01, 2011 07:38 AM
Cochise Co., AZ...you guys are amazing!
Will post more "guess the locality" pics as the year goes on.
Thanks for looking!
Michael
DMong
Feb 01, 2011 12:17 PM
Very cool Michael!
Knew it had to be down there in that general area. 
~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -Serpentine Specialties
westernNC
Feb 01, 2011 07:11 PM
Impressive that you called it Doug. I really lucked up on this pair...got them from a professor friend of mine. Really looking forward to seeing the variation in the F1's produced by these guys.
Michael
DMong
Feb 01, 2011 09:23 PM
Yeah, those are some sweet locality animals there Michael!
I had a very unique looking one that originated from parents from the Santa Cruz(Nogales area), but sold it several months ago to a guy that had a very decent W/C pairing for it, and could put it to good use.
No doubt, there's a bunch of very diverse looking penotypes down there in that three-way convergence zone!
Yes, please let us know what you produce with those guys!
regards, ~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"
my website -Serpentine Specialties
