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Could be gravid?

CCappy175598 Sep 27, 2003 07:36 PM

I'm the one with the constipated gecko. yeah well at first I thought it was impaction. But also she has bulges on her sides that look about the size of 2 eggs. She hasn't been fertilzed since she hasn't been with a male for over 2 months and she also seems young to become pregnant. Ive heard of in fertile egg development that occurs even if the male doesn't fertilize the female. could this be possible? If it is could she be having trouble laying the eggs and that is why she is constipated? I read once that there sometimes is the case where the female can not lay the eggs. what will cause this? She seems to have lost most of her fat content in her tail. I still haven't been able to bring her to the vet.

she keeps doing this thing where she looks like she has to go to the bathroom and scrunches her legs up Im not sure if she has to go and cant or she wants to lay the eggs and cant.

If i post a pic of her tummy do you think you guys could help me find out whats wrong?

Replies (16)

fruitionx Sep 27, 2003 07:41 PM

good luck
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Lauren
Leos and Uros

CCappy175598 Sep 27, 2003 07:51 PM

if she was gravid could this be why she is constipated? She seems young to have produced eggs. shes only about 6 inches from head to tail.

fruitionx Sep 27, 2003 07:59 PM

how much does she weigh. If she is small then yes she could have the eggs stuck. that woudlnt be good...
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Lauren
Leos and Uros

CCappy175598 Sep 27, 2003 08:07 PM

Im not sure how much in grams I am a lazy american unfimilar to the metric system. Btu in comparison to something Id say as much as an empty deer park .5 liter water bottle im uploading pictures of her tummy now. what can i do for her if she is having trouble laying eggs? She seems to be trying to do something she is moving her abdomin around like she is trying to push them out.

CCappy175598 Sep 27, 2003 09:24 PM

Thank you for your help. Im going to try to bring her to a vet tomorrow if I can find one that is open. I hope there is something they can do for her.

CCappy175598 Sep 27, 2003 08:32 PM


heres a view of her underside you can see on the right side the one possible egg.


her is the other side of her tummy and you can see a lump infront of her leg.


another pic of her tummy.

nasr_36 Sep 27, 2003 09:05 PM

Even though the pics are small, that does NOT look good. Either way if its impacted or gravid, she does not look healthy, and is very skinny. Young gravid leos will most likely get egg bound and die, so keep a close eye on her. Keep giving her baths and keep her on paper towel substrate,and if your lucky, she might pull through.

LeoEyes Sep 27, 2003 10:03 PM

Im afraid she is very very small and very sick, she is way too skiny...

Keep her on paper towels, make sure she has a moist hide box, feed her every night in small amounts, and soft food (such as molted mealworms, superworms or crickets) The softer food will be easyer to digest. Also dust her food with calcium every feeding, as she REALLY needs that calcium.

Keep giving her warm water baths, and make sure the water is not over an inch deep.

Good luck

StarGecko Sep 28, 2003 11:57 AM

That tail is very skinny! It takes a LONG time for a leo to lose that much weight. One reason females who are too young and small should not be allowed to be with males is that if the male mates with them, they may develop eggs they aren't ready to support and get eggbound and die. She may be eggbound. You need to find her a vet, who will examine her. If she is eggbound, he will probably give her a shot of a hormone (oxytocin? I 'm not sure) that stimulates contractions, and hopefully she will be able to pass the egg. Sometimes many shots are needed, it can take six treatements before that works. If it doesn't work, surgery is the only option. Otherwise she will die.
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CCappy175598 Sep 28, 2003 01:03 PM

she hasn't been eating for about a week. My Marine Science teacher has some herp vet friends that she is going to have take a look at her. Ive seperated her from the others so I can monitor her eating and if she passes any stones. The thing that is wierd is that she hasn't been with any males for as long as i have had her which is about 2 months. before that time I am not sure how long she has been away from a male. There weren't any males with her where I bought her. Im going to get her to a vet by tomorrow. No local vets were open today. Shes alert just not pooping and getting skinny. blah.

StarGecko Sep 28, 2003 01:25 PM

Give her a few warm baths. Whether she is impacted or eggbound, it won't hurt her and may help her pass the obstruction. A herp vet should be able to tell you what is wrong.

A couple licks of flax seed oil won't hurt her either, and may help lubricate the intestinal tract to pass an obstruction if she is impacted. What substrate has she been on?
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Sarah Stettler aka Starling
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CCappy175598 Sep 28, 2003 01:51 PM

ive been doing all of that you have suggested. she WAS on Reptiblend which i later found out was walnut shells eek.. she seemed to be passing it fine same as my male who was on it and doesn't have any impaction. i quickly took it all out and replaced it w/ paper towels.

is there any way i can hand feed her to get some food and fluids into her?

LeoEyes Sep 28, 2003 03:55 PM

Heres an idea..

Grind up some cricket/mealworms/superworms in a blender, or coffee grinder, ect. Addd some water till its a soupy mix, then get an eye dropper and put some of the mixture in it. Next put the end of the eye dropper near her nose, if she starts licking it, then continue to give her the slurry until shes done. If she desnt start licking it, put a little drop on her nose (be careful of her nostrils) and keep droping it on as she licks it up. You can do the same with water. Be careful not to feed her too much though, this should help rehidrate her and maybe "loosen" her up. Good luck!

CCappy175598 Sep 28, 2003 07:29 PM

hah im not putting any stinky crickets or meal worms in my blender butt ill do the best i can by tearing them up.

StarGecko Sep 28, 2003 10:47 PM

If she is impacted, additional food may cause an intestinal rupture. Crushed Walnut shells are an invention of the devil. They not only cause impaction, but the sharp edges cut up the intestinal wall causing bleeding. I would just have water available until you can get her to a vet tomorrow. A few licks of flax seed if she'll take it may help lubricate the bolus if she is impacted, to help her pass it, but what she really needs is a vet, to do a proper diagnosis and treatment. Without prompt vet care, she may not have long to live, whether it is impaction of that devilspawn crushed walnut shells or eggbinding.
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Sarah Stettler aka Starling
Sarah@stargecko.com
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StarGecko Sep 29, 2003 02:31 PM

I meant to say Flax seed oil, not flax seed.
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Sarah Stettler aka Starling
Sarah@stargecko.com
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