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This is a very cool species to work with. Very calm.

Breeder says the pair are het for blonde but I like their colors so much I almost hope they aren't. Let me hear from the Trans-Pecos guys. What do you think of her? Be brutal, I can take it.

John

I love the blondes, but I am partial to the normals. Yours is spectacular.
-Jack

>>This is a very cool species to work with. Very calm.
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>>Breeder says the pair are het for blonde but I like their colors so much I almost hope they aren't. Let me hear from the Trans-Pecos guys. What do you think of her? Be brutal, I can take it.
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>>John
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

Ok, here goes, that is an absolutely beautiful suboc. Awsome looking animal.

Don Gallagher

>>Ok, here goes, that is an absolutely beautiful suboc. Awsome looking animal.
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>>Don Gallagher

Man, just because he asked you to be brutal doesn't mean you have to go for the juggler vein.....lol
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Remember, my posts are MY opinion only.
Jimmy (draybar)

NT

Since the breeder says they're het I assume that they're probably not locale animals. But do they resemble the color and pattern of any specific area or is it difficult to pinpoint subocs?

I have no experience with the locales. I have seen such a wide variety of appearances amongst the photos of subocs on the web that I am intrigued as to what the geographic variation is for this species.

I wonder if anyone, professional or amateur has done any kind of survey of the phases (if such a word could be used for these types of variations).

Best regards
John

Subocs run the gamut of intensity(of black) almost throughout their range, although the blondes are more locality-specific (At least they have only turned up in a few places with any regularity).

>>Since the breeder says they're het I assume that they're probably not locale animals. But do they resemble the color and pattern of any specific area or is it difficult to pinpoint subocs?
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>>I have no experience with the locales. I have seen such a wide variety of appearances amongst the photos of subocs on the web that I am intrigued as to what the geographic variation is for this species.
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>>I wonder if anyone, professional or amateur has done any kind of survey of the phases (if such a word could be used for these types of variations).
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>>Best regards
>>John
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

She's a beauty! And if you do get any blondes out of her, I'll be glad to relieve you of a pair! A little side note: I just bought a second female a few weeks ago, and she has been biting me like the devil. I've kept subocs for ten years now, and this is the first to ever even attempt to bite me. maybe we just need to get better accquainted.

That is unusual. Not that I've worked with a million subocs, but I've never heard of anyone finding one with a 'tude.

Well that's what makes the world interesting. Good luck with her and if you can post a few pics. Nothing like checking out the neighbors
Regards
John