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Has anyone been successful breeding a super jungle to anything yet? I am currently looking into acquiring a male super jungle for breeding purposes but don't want to throw money away. Any info is always greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Anthony

It depends on your definition of "successfully"……. Last year a member of another forum had a litter from a female super jungle of premature babies and slugs. This person provided multiple photos to back up validity of the breeding attempt. While this was not a viable litter in terms of live babies, this does put to rest the rumor that super jungles are sterile. This same female super jungle just ovulated a day or two ago. So, while this was not a “successful” litter in terms of live babies, it does support that super jungles can and will successfully breed.

Now that we know that super jungles are NOT sterile. I would suggest purchasing your jungle stock or super jungle from a breeder who can prove that he/she has outcrossed their breeding stock. Outcrossing is the key to having viable super jungles. The vast majority of jungles available have been bred only to produce babies, not being outcrossed and with very little consideration being put towards selective breeding. The current jungle market pricing reflects this. Most of what is available reflects maybe 20% of the potential of the jungle gene. If you are worried about “throwing your money away” these are not what you want in your breeding projects.

Things that make what I would call a quality jungle are:

Outcrtossing - Do your research. Don’t just let someone tell you that they outcrossed their breeding stock. Make them prove it.

Pattern – Lower expression jungles can make some pretty wild patterned babies but the heavy patterned ones typically have a better chance of producing high patterned babies.

Color – The jungle gene can act like steroids for the color of the offspring.

Creamyness – This is the best trait of all in my opinion. If the seller can’t tell you what this is than they have never seen a nice jungle.

I am not sure if I mentioned this already but super jungles are NOT sterile. Also, make sure you get well outcrossed offspring. Be willing to pay for them though because when you do your research you will find that they are hard to come by.

Steve Ihrig – sdi

Great Post Steve (SDI) ! That is exactly the kind of information
people need to arm themselves with.

Not the typical "How inexpensively can I purchase this 'X' animal for ? etc . . . .

Really good beautiful out crossed Jungle stock are out there hard
to find now but more is on the way from different sources.

This will bring the Jungle project back to a level it should be.

By the way Steve is one of the guys who produces great Jungle Boas !

. . . Lar M

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Boas By Klevitz

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Everything correct.
But there is one more point. None was able to' breed a male superjungle, and up to today there is only one female Who got pregnant sine now. This coupé not be the proof of superjungle beino fertile but myst one now is fertile.....and a female!
NeXT question....how many supers are produced in these i believe a lot!

Of course this is only my opinion
Bes t wishes
Alemoz

Pretty certain Sean at EBN successfully bred a Male SJ some years ago maybe it was '07 I forget.

Anyway it didn't occur to him anything special was happening at that time.

I believe that male SJ was sold to someone maybe in Europe I believe.

So possibly it's just matter of time and we'll start seeing more
positive results from out crossed SJ's.

. . . Lar M
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Boas By Klevitz

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hy all,
as far as i know no certificate breeding (with pic of the clutch) with sj.
in europe there are several sj (at least four only in italy) and no one is breeding.
jungle is not a new morph (more than 10 years??) and i beleive in al that time we all should know of a sj breeding...

alemoz

Alemoz,

I do not know if i mentioned it in my previous post but SUPER JUNGLES ARE NOT STERILE. I emailed you a link to the thread from the other forum. This thread has photos of the super jungle while it was gravid and photos of the litter results. I don't think that I am allowed to post the link on this forum.

Steve Ihrig - sdi