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Glad to see all these guys again.
I pulled all the males out of brumation Monday night and some have had a meal already....

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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

John.
Very nice!
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Tom S
1.1 Flame Lampropeltis getla Floridana
1.0 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
0.1 Axanthic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
0.1 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis
1.0 Anerythristic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis

>>John.
>> Very nice!

Thank you!
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Nice animals John!

That is one very LOUD-colored orange MSP in the first pic!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

That first one rocks! I'll get some like that eventually...

>>That first one rocks! I'll get some like that eventually...

Thanks guys....
That Deep Orange MSP has some great lineage (Torres X Vermilya)....It is a sibling brother to Jonel Lopez's "sharktooth" MSP.
I call him Symon....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

I actually want to pick up a melanistic thayeri some time this year if I can find one for sale.

>>I actually want to pick up a melanistic thayeri some time this year if I can find one for sale.

There are about 5 folks I know of in the US working with them......If all goes as planned we may have some extras......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

I didn't realize they were so scarce in the US these days. I guess I haven't seen many lately, but I remember seeing them at reptile shows 6-7 years ago. A friend of used to produce them from hets.

All I want is a single lone male. I hope the united thayeri breeders can spare one!

Very nice and most are still looking pretty plump. I echo what Doug said about the first one. Oh yeah. The melanistic is awful nice too.
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BigT
There is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. The ignorant can be taught, stupidity is beyond our control.
1.2 P. m. melanoleucus B/W N. J. Northern Pines
1.2 P. d. deppei Mexican Pines
2.2 P. l. lineaticollis Linis or Lined Pines
1.2 P. m. lodingi Black Pines
0.3 P. c. sayi Kingsville X Stillwater red bulls
1.1 Drymarchon melenurus Blacktail Cribo
1.2 D. corais Yellowtail Cribos
1.2 M. s. cheynei Jungle Carpet
2.6 L. p. pyromelana Arizona Mt. Kings
1.1 L. g. californiae B/W Cali kings
0.0.3 M. f. flagellum Eastern Coachwhips
1.2 G. m. bottegoi Western Plated lizards

>>Very nice and most are still looking pretty plump. I echo what Doug said about the first one. Oh yeah. The melanistic is awful nice too.
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Thanks T....
And yes, it seems the 3.5 months at 55F didn't take any weight off of them......That is why I believe in feeding them plenty prior to October........

As for the melanistics:
We (Shannon & I) have 2.1 Lemke Line Melanistics and 1.2 from Melanistic Lineage to work with this year.....I hope to see some cool clutches with melanistics, MSPs and Leonis hatching....as well as a full clutch of melanistics........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

John,
Love those dark grey/nice red mex-mex. What happens when you breed two of those together? Do you get some dark and some normal mex-mex in the mix?

Nice ruthveni too. I have a soft spot for those. Easier captives than many zonata but still mountain king by all standards. Would love to visit the habitat one day. I wish folks who have habitat pics would post some. Only pics I have seen are in Hubb's MK book.
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Mark

>>John,
>>Love those dark grey/nice red mex-mex. What happens when you breed two of those together? Do you get some dark and some normal mex-mex in the mix?
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>>Nice ruthveni too. I have a soft spot for those. Easier captives than many zonata but still mountain king by all standards. Would love to visit the habitat one day. I wish folks who have habitat pics would post some. Only pics I have seen are in Hubb's MK book.

Check out SierraHerps.com for some Ruthveni Habitat Pics or all mexicana for that matter.....

Black phase X Black Phase Mex Mex will yeild all black phase offspring.
If a Black phase is bred to a normal you will get some inbetweeners. Their is a wild line of Black Phase mex mex but the trait seems to act like a line bred trait.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

>>>>John,
>>>>Love those dark grey/nice red mex-mex. What happens when you breed two of those together? Do you get some dark and some normal mex-mex in the mix?
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>>>>Nice ruthveni too. I have a soft spot for those. Easier captives than many zonata but still mountain king by all standards. Would love to visit the habitat one day. I wish folks who have habitat pics would post some. Only pics I have seen are in Hubb's MK book.
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>>Check out SierraHerps.com for some Ruthveni Habitat Pics or all mexicana for that matter.....
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>>Black phase X Black Phase Mex Mex will yeild all black phase offspring.
>>If a Black phase is bred to a normal you will get some inbetweeners. Their is a wild line of Black Phase mex mex but the trait seems to act like a line bred trait.
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>>John Lassiter
>>Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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Mark

Thanks John!!!! Just got drool all over my keyboard!!!!! So, which ones are ya breeding this year????? I, too, like the melanistic thayeri and the dark mex mex!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!!

Pat G-C

2 Chronicles 7:14

>>Thanks John!!!! Just got drool all over my keyboard!!!!! So, which ones are ya breeding this year????? I, too, like the melanistic thayeri and the dark mex mex!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!!

You are certainly welcome Pastor Pat!

And thanks for the compliments.....
I am breeding a few pairs of Thayeri, Mex Mex and Ruthveni this year......As well as some Holbrooki, Nigrita, Splendida, Leopard Ratsnakes, Loxocemus Bicolor, Pyromelana, Knoblochi, Abronia graminea and Abronia taeniata.

I have a page on my website stating my 2011 plans.......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

My favorite! If all these males mate you are going to have a ton of baby snakes this year!
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

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>>My favorite! If all these males mate you are going to have a ton of baby snakes this year!
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>>Bob
>>Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
>>Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

Thanks Bob.....and that is just some of the males.......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...