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When breeding hets what can be expected. I have some hets from a Jelly X Normal which means the babies are either het for Peanut Butter or het for T-neg. If I pair a het T-neg X Het PB will the offspring be a mix of T-neg, PB , and Jelly? If this is the case then you still won't know which is het for what. Trying to isolate what the hets are.
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J Sierra

U've got the 1st part right "Jelly" x Normal = 50% of the babies being het PB and other 50% het Amelanistic T-

If you were to pair a het PB to Het Amel T- the only morph you'll produce will be "Jellies" (just think of it without the "het" component... PB x T- = Jelly). The only way to get PB, Amel T- and "Jellies" in the same clutch is by breeding "Jelly" x "Jelly"

You can make predictions on what genes they are carrying (PB or Amel T-) based on phenotype but that not so accurate. for example the male i called "nice" looks to be het Amel T- while the other pair looks to be het PB. these assumptions are based solely on the way definite hets for T- or PB look, but it isn't that simple because of genetic "cross-over". I use these predictions to determine what to keep and what to pair with what but i'll still swap mates after the initial pairings.

*cross-over is basically when genes sorta mix and match so you have a combination of phenotypes (for example: you've got your mother's eyes but your father's hairline)

The only way to know 100% is by breeding them.

~Z

Thanks a lot Z! So the only way you'll get a good idea is if they are both het for Peanut Butter or both het for T-neg. Well I guess if I get Jellies then I know at least one is het T-Neg and the other is het PB, correct? I just won't know which one, is which.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

Great site man! Never saw it before, how long has it been up??
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Jimmy Tintle

Thanks Jimmy, I've been working on it for over a month but I just sorta finnished it today. I still have more pics to put up, but it's mostly finnished. It was very frustrating cause my internet connection is sloooow, lol.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

Hey from me too, Jorge. Hadn't noticed your new web page until reading this thread. Congratulations! It looks really nice, great picture quality. Am glad for you. Maybe some day I'll get to have one.

--Dennis

Thank you very much Dennis! I am constantly tweaking and adding things, but I like it so far. Take care bro!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

Well I guess if I get Jellies then I know at least one is het T-Neg and the other is het PB, correct? I just won't know which one, is which.

Pretty much!

The pairings i've done with Jelly X ??? results in me keeping 2.2... the plan is to mix and match that way i'll know (or hope to discover) who's het for what.

I've got 10 hatchlings from jelly x other stuff... none of them look similar (thou i used the same male)... when you're making your selections (if you're doing jelly x ???) just pick the hatchlings you really like... you'll end up with morphs which every way you look at it. T- x T-, PB x PB or T- x PB

Here's a pair of Jelly x hypo Flame (this is the low grade pair... the nicer 2 wont sit for pix)

parents:

~Z

Wow the parents are stunning, and even the hets are beautiful! I've noticed that Peanut Butter and Jellies make some crazy looking hets.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
J Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com