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Not all of them but a few.......

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John Lassiter
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Beautiful!!Lots of variety there!
Jeff

>>Beautiful!!Lots of variety there!

Thanks Jeff.......Some of those are Shannons and some are mine.....I think we did a great job putting together an awesome and variable breeding group........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Really cool picture, John. It seems that thayeri have not cornered the market on variability!

>>Really cool picture, John. It seems that thayeri have not cornered the market on variability!

I agree......Thayeri are my favorites still but other kingsnakes have tons of variability.....Alterna, Calkings and Goini come to mind.......Those are mainly pattern variations....

Thayeri and Mex Mex have both pattern and color variation.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

What must they think when they are all put together for these photo sessions? If I put all my baby pyros together I'd have a bit of trouble sorting out who is who later! LOL!

A wonderful collection, for sure!
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

>>What must they think when they are all put together for these photo sessions? If I put all my baby pyros together I'd have a bit of trouble sorting out who is who later! LOL!
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>>A wonderful collection, for sure!

There was lots of bucking going on in the tub....I did it as fast as possible because the females were running from the males.......
I have trouble sorting out ruthveni usually......
With these and the thayeri it's pretty simple....No two are exactly alike.....Head ornamentation and pattern is usually always different.....

Thanks for the compliments....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

That's a nice group you and the "Shanster" have!

~Doug
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>>That's a nice group you and the "Shanster" have!

Thanks Doug.....I don't know of one better at the moment......Now I need to get them laying good eggs this year and the projects will be kicked off.......The project will continue until that elusive black and salmon snake is hatched......LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Cripes buddy,

Until I looked hard at that photo, I never really appreciated the true diversity of mex mex. As another poster stated, they are really quite thayeri-like in their range of shades and patterns.

I myself have a small group (2.1) of deeply inbred mex mex of a line that a few hardcore wNY keepers have been maintaining from our own local ol'e timer and dear friend Henry Cohen. His stock goes back decades. I think he may have picked up his original F1s from Dave Barker or possibly Frank Retes. He has spoken about the source of his founders to me before and the names of those gentlemen have been repeated a few times (in my fuzzy memory). I'm gonna try to get back in contact with him, as I would like to know for sure. My mex mex are youngins and might go this year. Anyway, nice snakes my friend.

Will

>>Cripes buddy,
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>>Until I looked hard at that photo, I never really appreciated the true diversity of mex mex. As another poster stated, they are really quite thayeri-like in their range of shades and patterns.
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>>I myself have a small group (2.1) of deeply inbred mex mex of a line that a few hardcore wNY keepers have been maintaining from our own local ol'e timer and dear friend Henry Cohen. His stock goes back decades. I think he may have picked up his original F1s from Dave Barker or possibly Frank Retes. He has spoken about the source of his founders to me before and the names of those gentlemen have been repeated a few times (in my fuzzy memory). I'm gonna try to get back in contact with him, as I would like to know for sure. My mex mex are youngins and might go this year. Anyway, nice snakes my friend.
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>>Will

Thanks Will.....We have some pretty old lines ourselves...dating back to Applegate, Lemke, Sipperly and Kardon at the SA Zoo.
There's even two males I have from a wild collected/confiscated female.......

When you can share some pics of the here or email me to them....I really enjoy a cool classic Mex Mex.....But I do like the nice dark phase, granites and Hypoerythristics as well.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...