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SUBSTRATES for beardies...HELP!!!

slipperyjankens Sep 28, 2003 11:45 AM

Hi I have heard a lot of conflicting opinions on what is the best substrate to use in a bearded dragons cage. I also realize that choosing the wrong substrate can be lethal. So some one please tell me what I should use. The two substrates that I have heard most that are good to use are wood chips like zoo meds brand, or TRex calcium sand. Is either of these ok to use. Please let me know.

David

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Mattman Sep 28, 2003 11:51 AM

I don't like either of them. They can be eaten and cause impaction. I go with substrates that can not be eaten. Paper towels for young dragons,and repti carpets are good choices. I use a plastic non slip shelf liners for all my cages now. It is very easy to clean with a wet paper towel, offers them traction, and there is now way for them to eat it. I would rather be safe then sorry.
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Magenta Sep 28, 2003 11:53 AM

Probably close to a year ago there was a discussion on this forum about just that. Some said they were using wheat bran so I decided to try it. I love it and so far so good, Herman seems to love it too. Its been working out just great for me. Its cheap, easy to clean and he cant impact on it.

mandora Sep 28, 2003 12:42 PM

Im using rabbit pellets, but, I think Im allergic to them, (Im sneezing really badly since my beardie came home, and I don't think its him causing it!)wheat bran is a good idea! I was trying to think of something similar that doesn't have alfalfa in it.... good call!

Magenta Sep 28, 2003 03:11 PM

I think its great. I have a 40lb bag of it though *LOL* I couldnt find anything smaller, I have enough to last a lifetime! I think I might give it to my friend who has horses then get a new one for me. I dont really know how long I should keep it around and still use it.

LdyPayne Sep 28, 2003 01:23 PM

Both wood chips and calci sand have proven to be dangerous for dragons. Wood chips have sharp ends that if swollowed can cause internal damage, not to mention impaction. Also, being alot harder to spot clean, the woodchips can harbour bacteria that could be bad for your dragon's health (not so bad if you clean all the woodchips out every week). Calci sand is not digestable no matter how much the petstore or company claims. It tends to clump as well, which can cause severe impaction when swollowed.

I am not convinced with the safety of wheatbran that alot of other posters here use. To me, it is no better than calci sand as it clumps and tends to turn hard and crusty when being soiled by dragon droppings. Also, being a food item, it can spoil if not cleaned regularly. I have also heard of it clumping and drying around the vent, causing irritation to the dragon. So I don't personally recommend it but between calci sand and bran, if I had to chose between the two, I would choose bran.

Washed Playsand has been used for adult dragons alot and for the most part, is not harmful to the dragons. Most dragon owners who use washed playsand, don't feed their dragons on it. They feed insects in another tank or lay down a sheet underneath the food, this way keeping sand injesting to a minimum.

Though I haven't used the non slip self liner (can't find any wide enough so I don't have to have two pieces in my cage), I do use plastic tablecloths. It has a slight texture which doesn't hinder my dragons' ability to run across it. It is very easy to spot clean (just pick up the poo, wash the spot with a mild antibacteria soap, wipe up the soak and dry off the spot). I change it once every month though, to ensure no germs accuminate underneath it as it does tear easily.

I deffinitely recommend either the shelf liner or plastic table cloth for dragons cages. Both are relatively cheap (I paid under $20 for a roll that is 3' wide x 100' long), easy to clean and manage (no lifting 50lbs bags of sand around the house), don't cause allergic reactions (like rabbit pellets or dust), are not dusty, can't be injested and are aesthetically pleasing (both self liner and tablecloths come in a variety of colours and patterns).

RaffertyReptiles Sep 28, 2003 02:35 PM

i use reptile carpet, its easy to clean and can't be eaten, even those reptile sands that claim that if there eaten there good for the dragon but they still can cause impaction, i'd rather be safe than sorry

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