Reptile & Amphibian Forums

Welcome to kingsnake.com's message board system. Here you may share and discuss information with others about your favorite reptile and amphibian related topics such as care and feeding, caging requirements, permits and licenses, and more. Launched in 1997, the kingsnake.com message board system is one of the oldest and largest systems on the internet.

Click here for Dragon Serpents
Click for ZooMed

amel Ltt

rtdunham Mar 23, 2011 07:19 PM

Scroll down to the 11th post for two pix of it. I don't remember seeing pix of this animal on this forum. Did i just overlook it?

http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=758

Replies (23)

Tony D Mar 23, 2011 08:56 PM

Its been here.
-----
“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

WWW.TDSNAKES.BLOGSPOT.COM

DMong Mar 23, 2011 09:29 PM

Yeah Terry, Joe M. has posted that awesome male here several times in the past. He captured it in his own back yard as a matter of fact.

Glad that guy is doing well too. Joe did a great job of raising it up and I think he produced hets for the first time just last year in 2010(I think).

There was a girl who had a nice w/c baby amel triangulum and posted it here a while back as well.

Here is a photo of it for your viewing pleasure..LOL!

~Doug
Image
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

rtdunham Mar 23, 2011 11:47 PM

Damn. That's why I'm glad I'm no longer in school!

The changes in the animal's coloration in that picture you posted, Doug, remind me of an extra light "Sentz line" hypo pyro (are THEY still being called that?) I always described the areas that would have been black on a pyro as "coffee with cream" on that morph. This one looks like that, but with extra latte.

DMong Mar 24, 2011 12:48 AM

LOL!!,...yes, I agree. This girl's triangulum seems to be a form of very reduced hypomelanism, whereas Joe's is a t-neg. amel.

It definitely does resemble the coloration on a "Sentz" line hypo pyro now that you mention it.

Here is another photo of the girls triangulum, whereas Joe's was the one you linked to. It's definitely not a true amelanistic, but certainly awesome as heck and very unique just the same...

~Doug
Image
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

Tony D Mar 24, 2011 09:26 AM

I seem to recall that this one didn't make it. Is that correct?
-----
“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

WWW.TDSNAKES.BLOGSPOT.COM

DMong Mar 24, 2011 10:42 AM

Wow!,....that sucks Tony!

I wasn't aware of that at all to be quite honest, and hope that isn't the case. You probably know far more about it than I do because I haven't heard anything whatsoever about it since all that scuffling about it being a corn or triangulum last year..

~Doug
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

Tony D Mar 25, 2011 08:18 AM

All I have is a recollection. There was also a hypo found in or near Lurey VA a few years back. Last I heard it was doing ok but haven't heard about it in some time.
-----
“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

WWW.TDSNAKES.BLOGSPOT.COM

DMong Mar 25, 2011 09:49 AM

That's very interesting that another hypo was found in VA.

Were you able to catch a glimpse of it yourself?

thanks for the interesting tid-bit!

~Doug
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

Tony D Mar 25, 2011 12:50 PM

No just what was posted here.
-----
“Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind.” Emmerson

WWW.TDSNAKES.BLOGSPOT.COM

DMong Mar 25, 2011 03:30 PM

.
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

JYohe Mar 25, 2011 05:14 PM

and it really doesn't matter if it lived or died (it's alive I thought)...it was wild collected IN PA and posted the location ,right here on the internet...and all wild stuff in PA is not legal...not even the offspring...no matter what loophole people think there is...there is not...so after internet exposure ...it's an off limit snake....and that sucks....I don't think the babies are even allowed to be 'gifted'....and PA has just a couple rules....
-----
........JY

Joe_M Mar 24, 2011 08:40 AM

Terry,
It was me who found the albino on a Sunday afternoon in 2007 cruizing on the surface out in the yard.

No hets as of yet, but keeping my fingers crossed. Here's a photo from a while back. Both the albino and the red female on the bottom have been warmed up and are feeding great right now.


-----
Joe

DMong Mar 24, 2011 10:45 AM

Awesome Joe!!

That photo reminds me of Don Hamper's photo in Applegate's book many years ago..LOL!

best of luck with producing het's THIS year bro!

~Doug
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

mikefedzen Mar 25, 2011 12:34 AM

haha Doug, I was thinking the same thing about that picture.. brought back memories and I don't even know where my copy of that book is now.

Albino eastern milks are sweet.

Image
-----
Mike
KingPin Reptiles
www.kingpinreptiles.com

DMong Mar 25, 2011 09:52 AM

HAHAA!!....no doubt Mike!

I knew it would instantly remind some other folks of that pic if they had ever seen it in Applegate's book..LOL!

Funny stuff!

~Doug
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

rtdunham Mar 26, 2011 09:17 PM

>>No hets as of yet, but keeping my fingers crossed. Here's a photo from a while back. Both the albino and the red female on the bottom have been warmed up and are feeding great right now.

that's exciting, Joe. I'm rooting for breeding results for you.
td

Joe_M Apr 01, 2011 02:34 PM

Thank you very much Terry.


-----
Joe

shannon brown Mar 24, 2011 12:12 PM

Check this out,A good friend of mine found this young adult out and about in the woods.He took pics and let it go on its way.I could have just killed him.LOL...
Its not a t- but its a t plus or hypo for sure.

L8r Shannon

p.s. he promises me he is going back to try and find it later this spring.Whats the chances though???


Joe_M Mar 24, 2011 12:44 PM

Nice Shannon. You sure that was released? It looks a lot like this one that was posted a few years back... (not sure by who, maybe it was you?) Head pattern and some blotches seem pretty close, if not identical.

The more I compare, it is almost definitely the same snake.

On a side note, over the past few years I have found the same L.t.t. a few times in the same general areas. Good luck to your friend.
-----
Joe

zonatahunt Mar 24, 2011 01:25 PM

Yup, those snakes are identical in pattern; they're for sure the same animal. Shannon, I have to agree with the other poster's question, are you sure the animal was released?

Mitch

DMong Mar 24, 2011 05:33 PM

That is too funny man!

no question.............the very same animal.

~Doug
-----
"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

shannon brown Mar 25, 2011 08:59 AM

Yep, and yep.

I wish it wasn't so but it is.

L8r Shannon

shannon brown Mar 25, 2011 08:58 AM

Yep,I had the same problem with the guy and infact it was released.It is the same snake (I have those pics too)but he got scared and took it back a few days later and released it.

L8r

Site Tools