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platinum lesser het. ?

edtsc Mar 31, 2011 03:55 PM

is this possible? this pair is being sold as a normal male and a platinum lesser het. female. i thought lesser was codom? so there cant be a het.

Replies (12)

lairofdragons Mar 31, 2011 04:29 PM

You are correct
Lesser is a co-dom and no way to have a het

Travis
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kingofspades Mar 31, 2011 04:29 PM

Lesser is codom.

Maybe it carries the gene to make "Platty daddies" as Ralph Davis calls them, but it is not a lesser or "het lesser."
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edtsc Mar 31, 2011 04:54 PM

these two are just then?so what are Platty daddies? are they just normals from a clutch that had some lessers?

sloanreptiles Mar 31, 2011 06:34 PM

There is no such thing as Het Lesser and Lessers are already the Heterozygous form of the Homozygous Blue Eyed Leucistic. There is a Het Platty that when mixes with Lesser Produces the Homozygous Platty Daddy, but going by the picture I would say these are just siblings from a Lesser X Normal clutch, which means they are just normals.
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kingofspades Mar 31, 2011 07:43 PM

I was under the impression that platty daddies are a combination of an unexplained gene and the lesser.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

sloanreptiles Mar 31, 2011 10:51 PM

It is somewhat unexplained at the moment right now it is a normal looking snake that is a carrier for the "Daddy" gene. Ralph believes he made a Homozygous Het Daddy that looks normal. But we know for sure that the Het Daddy (normal looking snake)bred to a Lesser has a 1 in 4 chance of producing a platty daddy which is a Homozygous moroph meaning you can't reproduce a Platty Daddy by breeding a Platty Daddy to a normal
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robyn@ProExotics Mar 31, 2011 07:52 PM

"Going from the picture" and the context given I would say this is a scam, ignorant seller or not...
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edtsc Mar 31, 2011 08:06 PM

the seller says those two produced this?

kingofspades Mar 31, 2011 08:38 PM

1 of 2 things is happening here...

Either he's stumbled onto some new recessive gene that LOOKS like a lesser...

or

His female was bred to a lesser at some point and retained sperm.

Or a possible third option...

(That's the troll face...the seller, not you.)
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

BAM_Reptiles Apr 02, 2011 02:05 PM

or the seller is just a flat out idiot and a troll that has no business breeding/selling snakes if they can't keep track of something that simple.

there's been several ads on CL here for "het spiders" or "het pastels" when in reality they are just normals that are siblings to spiders or pastels
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edtsc Apr 02, 2011 08:05 PM

it turns out that the seller was told they made it from the previs owner.somebody got scamed!

ohernz Mar 31, 2011 04:34 PM

Unless there is anew development in the genetics of the lesser, you are right. Lesser is a Co-Dom mutation, therefore, there can't be a "Het Lesser". Each lesser has ONE "LESSER" gene... if anything, a lesser could be called a "Het BEL" since the presence of TWO "LESSER" genes in the same animal is expressed as a Blue Eyed Leucistic.
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