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Has anyone noticed the different types of scaleless snakes being produced? It first started with the scaleless texas rat a few years back and then to scaleless cornsnakes and now i'm seeing scaleless everglades for sale. What's the story on these? I'm starting to suspect there may be some cross breeding going on to produce a scaleless everything.

I don't know the story, but I have to admit, it does make you wonder huh?
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Scaleless corns are a cross with emoryi (great plains rat), so similar to creamsicles.

Not sure about the glades, but my guess is the gene comes from the Texas rats.

Yes, when people see $$$signs, they do whatever it takes to stuff their pockets. This has been proven time, and time, and time again.

It doesn't make good common sense for there to be all of these scaleless snakes popping up out of nowhere recently.

Where are the pics and origin data of all these original genuine parents and clutch-mates of all these scaleless things..LOL!!

I'm waiting to see scaleless "floridana" next..HAHAA!!

And so the hobby wheel continues on folks!...................

~Doug
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Soon they'll have snakes with legs and ears. I guess that would be a lizard. LOL. Such fads are never good for the animals involved.

Let's not forget the possibility of snakes being produced with eyelids and whiskers either..LMAO!!..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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It's troubling because I had no idea the ultramels were hybrids. Now we got the scaleless snakes creeping into all sorts of colubrids. When will it end?

"When will it end?

Yes, that's just it, it WON'T!.....It will only keep snow-balling" and only gets many FOLDS worse every single breeding season.

I see this on a daily basis with practically every single type of snake in the hobby now.

Pretty soon, the label should simply read..."SNAKE" on their deli cups, because nobody will know what the hell they really are at all.

All the crap I continually hear about "honest representation" at the time the crosses are sold doesn't mean diddly-squat, accept for possibly that one single initial purchase where the correct information might get exchanged, whether or not the buyer retains this, or documents the precise lineage is another story altogether though, and I see THAT happen all the time too!.

Once those man-made crosses leave a table, all their offspring, and their offsprings offspring, and so on are FAR MORE often than not sold as whatever the heck they best represent......THAT is the true reality of how this hobby works, and HAS always worked....like it or not!

Anyway, sorry for the rambling, but you probably already know that is what REALLY happens. In my opinion, corns are probably the least of the problems as far as "counterfeit" crosses go, but nonetheless are here to stay.

Nobody ever seems to think before they produce something that once the offspring of a cross are sold, they can never, ever be recalled, and are out there forever folks.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

deli cups won't say just "SNAKE" on them.

they'll say "COLUBRID"