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Five eggs so far with two to go from this pair of wc locality L. getula...

Very nice!

They remind me just a bit of the male I had that originated from parents one county over in Santa Cruz, County.

Best of luck with the nice locality project!

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Hi Doug, did you know that the very first Mexican Black king was collected in Nogales Az. But Doc Lowe, (Former head of herps, at the UofA) only before he as Doc lowe. He found it under a bale of hay out in a field.

It was later discribed as a separate type king. Which I do not agree with, after seeing many many of these over their entire range.

This story was told by Bill Wooden, at an Ariz. Herp, So. Meeting. interesting.

I didn't know one was collected under a bail of hay, but from what I understand, that is probably the one found on Highway 15 30.6 miles south of Hermosillo, Sonora in August of 1950. Just prior to that on July 15th, there was a "nigrita" discovered 7.2 miles southeast of Pitahaya, Sonora after dark on the road.

I would like to meet Bill Woodin myself to talk over many things, as he is certainly a very well-known icon in Southwestern herpetology.

regards, ~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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I worked at the Ariz Sonora Des. Museum, and got to meet and talk to Mr. Wooden many times.

But I had not seen him in many years. His talk was about what it was like in this area, way back then, and the herpers that came to visit. It was a great talk.

I am an oldie, but he is the next generation older, a great great talk.

Yeah, that's great stuff to be able to talk to old-timers like that.

The fact that the once aptly named Pyro(L.p.woodini) was named after him is pretty neat as well. I read his Museum days started around 1950 as well, just about the time that first nigrita was first discovered and described.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

Kind of ironic that they named Lp woodeni after him considering his masters thesis pretty much showed that it was not a diagnosable population.
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Rick Staub

HAHAA!!....yeah, it's funny how things work sometimes..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

That is a nice locality to have. Not your typical splendida pattern.

That's a cool looking locallity specimen for sure!
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Jorge Sierra

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Thanks for the nice replies everyone. I am excited to see if the clutch will display some variety from one individual to the next. Hoping for some solid black ones and some brightly patterned ones. Will keep you all posted.

Thanks,
Michael

Sweet looking locality snake!!! Good luck with that project!
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Jimmy Tintle