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Wonderin if anyone knows what this is, or has seen it before??

CantilXCotton Sep 28, 2003 09:16 PM

Ok, I have kept many Black Ratsnakes in my short life, and I have yet to see one of this pattern. I would like to know if anyone has seen this before. If anyone knows if it is genetic. Or any ideas you might have. I have no idea what to call it. Everytime she sheds, the blotches that are already there get bigger. And she begins getting new blotches. I know the pics are crappy, but I will have better pics this week.

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CantilXCotton Sep 28, 2003 09:18 PM

Sorry the pics didnt post using html. Here ya go.
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CantilXCotton Sep 28, 2003 09:19 PM

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CantilXCotton Sep 28, 2003 09:20 PM

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CantilXCotton Sep 28, 2003 09:21 PM

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Shaky Sep 28, 2003 10:17 PM

>>Ok, I have kept many Black Ratsnakes in my short life, and I have yet to see one of this pattern. I would like to know if anyone has seen this before. If anyone knows if it is genetic. Or any ideas you might have. I have no idea what to call it. Everytime she sheds, the blotches that are already there get bigger. And she begins getting new blotches. I know the pics are crappy, but I will have better pics this week.
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...and I think to myself, "What a wonderful world."

Shaky Sep 28, 2003 10:20 PM

I have no idea what it is, but something like that has popped up many times in other species, and possibly in black rats as well. I've seen that in corns and bairdi lately. Some folks are trying to call it a form of piebaldism, but its a pretty random occurrence as far as I can tell, and no one has yet proven it to be genetic.
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Marcel Poots Sep 29, 2003 03:57 AM

Burns form lightbulps become also whit elike that.

Marcel

>>Ok, I have kept many Black Ratsnakes in my short life, and I have yet to see one of this pattern. I would like to know if anyone has seen this before. If anyone knows if it is genetic. Or any ideas you might have. I have no idea what to call it. Everytime she sheds, the blotches that are already there get bigger. And she begins getting new blotches. I know the pics are crappy, but I will have better pics this week.
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

rearfang Sep 29, 2003 02:46 PM

I'd have to throw my hat in on the side of piebaldism. the fact that new blotches appear besides the old ones's getting larger...kind of rules out burns (There would be obvious burn damage and scale distortion on a burn. Looks like what happended to a Glossy snake I had. The larger it got, the more pie marks.
Frank

Jeff Schofield Sep 29, 2003 08:37 PM

I have some adult milks exhibiting a similar "episode".They are fresh wc with no skin problems...I have seen this in at least 1 other ssp of milk too. Try and get this read broadly, it may be something environmental. Where did this snake come from?? Address these pics to other colubrid forums,Thanks,Jeff

Hotshot Oct 02, 2003 02:49 PM

and he has some spots like that as well. They arent as big, but the spots are growing with every shed and I can assure you they are not from light bulb burns.

My KY locale corn snake has a few small spots as well.

On this pic of my black rat snake, check the spot out just to the right of my thumb. Its not a very good picture, but you can see one of the small spots. He has these on his sides, and it kind of looks like piebald. But I dont have any idea.

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