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What's the most you've paid for a Colubrid?
Which variety and how many dinero did you spend?

$1500 For a yearling Hypo-E Agalma and a 100% Het male hatchling.....

It was a good deal in my opinion.....

Now let's hear all those Honduran crazed folks confess to their High dollar purchases on animals that are around $100ea now......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

John, let's not forget the new million dollar Hognose craze now....
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Jimmy Tintle

>>John, let's not forget the new million dollar Hognose craze now....

LOL.....Don't get me started...

I forgot about those rear-fanged venomous colubrids......LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

with rear fanged venomous colubrids? Don't you like these???

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Jimmy Tintle

>>with rear fanged venomous colubrids? Don't you like these???

I like those better than the American Hognose snakes....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Yea and they are cheaper, I agree totally!
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Jimmy Tintle

Me too John!

Will

American hoggies are CUTE! How can you not just ooh and aah over thier little upturned face Granted I have 0 desire to actually work with them but I like looking at other peoples.
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
1.3 African House Snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
1 corn snake
4.3 Florida Kings
2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
1 Argentine boa
1 Texas Rat Snake
1 checkered garter snake

>>American hoggies are CUTE! How can you not just ooh and aah over thier little upturned face Granted I have 0 desire to actually work with them but I like looking at other peoples.
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They have that loose-skinned, ridge-scaled feel to them.....Not appealing.......Fat, stumpy and overpriced....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Fat, stumpy and overpriced

Now thats funny! Kinda sounds like my ex when we split...
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Jimmy Tintle

>>Fat, stumpy and overpriced
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>>Now thats funny! Kinda sounds like my ex when we split...
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>>Jimmy Tintle
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

those are very nice.

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Jimmy Tintle

Hi Jimmy,

That mess is the same ball python pyramid scam in a different dress. The guys that got in 3-4 years ago will make all of the dough and several thousand poor suckers will try and ride their coattails to the bank. However, in the process, mortgages will be lost, marriages will be broken up and dreams will be crushed...yikes!

Will

The ball python and hognose dreams...Amway with scales.

Will, I haven't heard "amway" in years, but your right MLM of the snake world....I have to agree, the question is what will these guys do when the market has a tsunami and they are worth pennies on the dollar....Where will all these animals go???
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Jimmy Tintle

Well Jimmy...

That is a great question. Your right, with their higher reproductive potential, w. hogs will drop quicker and farther than the bps. Your talking 4-10 eggs in ball pythons and 7-16 eggs with hogs. So, I think they will hit the retail shops sooner and be the next cornsnake.

I must say though, that I am quite enamored with the snow w. hog. And once they drop like a sack'o shat, I'll pick one up. I think that it is by far the most handsome snow morph of any snake.

However, truth be told, most bp guys are still making money, but that is for all of the now low end basics that folks just love (albinos, pieds, leucies, clowns, etc.) and will continue to sop up as the price keeps falling. The other money makers are the big cutting-edge guys that are gonna hit the pipe-dreamers with all of those new multiple gene combos that allow you to end up with faded brown snakes with stripes or squiggles for thousands of $$$.

...but, that's just one man's opinion. Anyway, it will be interesting to see. Thanks man, good conversation.

Will

Will,

I think the only reason those patternless squiggly lined BP's(and other colubrids) will still be more expensive is the multiple genes not so much the actual look of the snake. If I would be in it for profit, the investment that it takes for the multiple genes in one animal could actually be cheaper in the long run....You figure less mouths to feed, to heat, and cage. And you have all the benefits of producing anything available....I am sure I don't have to tell you this.

I personally like a natural phenotype animals in my collection. (with exceptions of hypo, and aberrant patterns) But in order to maximize what I produce, purchasing multiple het animals is usually the way I go...Most of the time a little more expensive than a natural phenotype but when they reproduce I can offer what the masses usually want. Just my personal opinion and I like what I like. I do have to say that caramel,toffee belly, or the t plus gene animals have caught my eye as of lately...
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Jimmy Tintle

Hi Jimmy,
I agree with you completely. I was just referring to the fact that all of these multiple gene bp combos really don't improve on the appearance of the snake at all, in my opinion. We are getting to the point were they are all starting to look the same.

Oh yeah, I really do like that t hog also, Is that the same morph that Richard Evans had several years ago?

Will

Oh I gotcha now, yea pretty soon the will be all white, with no pattern. IDK where that t plus hog(toffee belly) originated...I actually like the caramel coloration of them....I don't really follow the genes in the hogs, but if I decide to get one it will based on my liking as a pet...So I won't be buying them for a while...There is a t plus pacific gopher too that is pretty sweet looking....and of course I like the chocolate/purplish color of the t plus nelsoni...
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Jimmy Tintle

>>Hi Jimmy,
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>>That mess is the same ball python pyramid scam in a different dress. The guys that got in 3-4 years ago will make all of the dough and several thousand poor suckers will try and ride their coattails to the bank. However, in the process, mortgages will be lost, marriages will be broken up and dreams will be crushed...yikes!
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>>Will
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>>The ball python and hognose dreams...Amway with scales.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Exactly! I very much agree!!

My het albino hog that cost about 50 times less than the going rate for reduced-blotched Western hogs named after a very big snake....LOL!!

I personally think hogs like this are prettier than the ridiculously priced comparison above, but that is just me and my opinion.

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Genesis 1:1

To be truthfully honest every snake in my collection now was less than $500. For the most expensive one I have in my collection now. I would have to say I spent $400.00 on a hatchling "Coffey Line" aberrant Grayband. I bought 1.3 at the time so it is hard to determine each but that's a close estimate.
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Jimmy Tintle

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Jimmy Tintle

Yep..those are killer Jimmy....
I have dibs on your first available pair....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

You Betcha Buddy!
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Jimmy Tintle

Those are simply outstanding Jimmy!

Very unique indeed!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

Thanks Doug, I am hoping to maybe score a Ghost Male for that precious little girl this year...
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Jimmy Tintle

Awesome!,....

Yeah, those ghosts. hypos, and anery's are killer too bro!

The ghost genes introduced into that line would be mind-blowing dude!. That's a sweet future project for you Jimmy..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

Yea it is, one of those that may take a while but I am sure it will be well worth it....In person you really can't see the orange pattern they almost look chocolate colored....Great thing is that aberrant pattern is a simple recessive trait...
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Jimmy Tintle

That's sweet! What do the others look like, Jimmy?
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

Thanks Jorge! The other aberrant female is in shed so I will take some pics after....Then the pair of hets are just regular blairs phase animals, nothing really to write home about....
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Jimmy Tintle

My albino mexican milk snake male and his het albino future mate cost me 1300.

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Mike
KingPin Reptiles
www.kingpinreptiles.com

I have been soooo tempted on those Mike. Glad your working with them, I now know who I'm contacting....That is one nice animal!
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Jimmy Tintle

Thanks Jimmy,
With my luck by the time my animals get to breeding size there will be another 3 or 4 people with breeding snakes from the same line.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles
www.kingpinreptiles.com

>>My albino mexican milk snake male and his het albino future mate cost me 1300.

Cool....Is Susan Hardy still selling those from her amel Freer, Texas line?
I haven't seen those in a while, but I haven't shopped around from milksnakes in a long while......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

She actually has a pair of albinos in the classifieds now for 2300
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Jimmy Tintle

Yeah John they're Freer, TX locale and I got them from her. She was great to deal with and I'm glad I got them.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles
www.kingpinreptiles.com

Mainly because annulata are such nice, captivity-friendly snakes, but also because you will make some money from the babies for a long time.
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Mark

Hey Mark,
Thanks that's what I'm hoping for, lol!
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles
www.kingpinreptiles.com

Hi,

I must confess that I have never paid that much for a colubrid. My original pair of GA kings cost me about $100.00 total, but from those genetics I was able to (and still do) produce and sell 100s in the $200-400.00ea. range. My NJ kings and obks have also maintained their initial asking price (what I paid) at $100.00 or more each for well over a decade, so I really haven't sacrificed many $$ into them either. Please understand that I am not bragging, but I got into a niche of colubrids that was not, is not, and most likely will not be attended to by the big boys.

From there, I was also able to spend many thousands re-investing in Australian monitors, Boelen's pythons, diamond pythons and Abronia graminea. I also breed and sell lots of pet rocks (ball pythons) that the kings initially paid for, but I have never really invested much in them either. I have always looked out for a good trade when I needed one. I think people overlook the value of trading. I may have lost out on some opportunities, but I didn't lose the house in the process either. Colubrids have always been good to me (and many others here), but I guess that I have been fortunate not to have spent the rent on them.

Will

Most I have ever spent was $200 for a snow Southern pine.
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Genesis 1:1

maybe 200ish. I've paid more for a couple of my retics.

I figure if I'm lucky this year, with the three clutches I expect to wind up with, I'll pay for the feedbills for my most of my whole collection (except the retics, those are expensive but fun). Maybe next year I can recoup some of the cost of caging the animals too (as more of my animals are breedable and as the house snakes DON'T lay all duds again, I hope).
At one point I'd *love* to make a living at it (it's more fun the managing a database and working with crazy people), but just having it pay for a substantial portion of itself this year would be frigging wonderful, and make my wife gripe a lot less.
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
1.3 African House Snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
1 corn snake
4.3 Florida Kings
2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
1 Argentine boa
1 Texas Rat Snake
1 checkered garter snake

"just having it pay for a substantial portion of itself this year would be frigging wonderful, and make my wife gripe a lot less."

well said

I paid $80 for an '09 striped Pacific gopher snake het for a bunch of stuff. That is the most. Old baby picture.

The least is for a couple of '10 pyros for $25 each.

One of the $25 pyros.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

for that smokin' pyro? $25.00? Now that was a great deal behind door number what? Could you randomly give me 7 numbers between 1 and 52? Thanks!
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Jimmy Tintle

The other $25 pyro, a little female. I have become friends with the breeder ( have several older pyros from same man) and drove to his house to get them, so no shipping either. One has to consider the shipping so just add on about $50 for each shipment.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

Hognose..... 10k
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I never give them hell, I give them the truth and they think it's hell!

If more colubrid guys had balls (pythons) they wouldn't need to lie in police reports.

www.hognosefarm.com

Charlie,
Why don'y you share with people how popular Hognoses are and how much money MANY people are making with them.
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www.Bluerosy.com

I like them for their personality which why I started getting them so long ago. Now they are basically what my collection consists besides some kingsnake holdovers. The number of people beginning interested in them is booming as well. A good number of breeders are making a small fortune on them but I ten to keep most back. I've only let go of one anaconda that I've produced so far in a trade and bought 3 males the first year they were released. I do tend to hoard lol.
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I never give them hell, I give them the truth and they think it's hell!

If more colubrid guys had balls (pythons) they wouldn't need to lie in police reports.

www.hognosefarm.com

I could NOT agree more, with respect to their personality. They BY FAR, have the most personality of just about any snakes I've ever had. I'll preface this with the fact that I love my floridana just as much....but they are completely different in terms of character. While most of my kings will either immediately "go the other way", stand and fight, or hardly pay me any attention at all, when I slide open their tubs (unless I'm feeding), several, if not most of my hogs actually come out from where ever they are and come slinking up to the front with their heads high off the ground to see what's going on. Yeah I know itks most likely just a feeding response, but it also seems to be definite curiosity combined. They are awesome snakes...rarely ever crapping on me and are extremely content to be handled. They're Very relaxed snakes, yet active, while being held.

That feeding response gets out of hand.....I turned around for a quick second to find this one with a mouthful...

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Jimmy Tintle

my florida kings do that...come foward and climb onto me more often than not. Sort of neat
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
1.3 African House Snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
1 corn snake
4.3 Florida Kings
2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
1 Argentine boa
1 Texas Rat Snake
1 checkered garter snake

Like how you put it - they are an active, diurnal snake, yet real easy to hold. Not too many diurnal snakes are like that.
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Mark

Yeah, definitely not skittish. Pissy, sometimes...but that's ok with me.

You made a good commercial! I've been wanting some for a while, hopefully I'll get some tri-coloreds here this year, if a friend of mine doesn't forget me, cough cough!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

Only if he doesn't have too many and turn into a symbol..haha

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Jimmy Tintle

Those are nice! I've always wanted some of those, lol.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com