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Ok, so I know of blue eyed lucies from mojo to mojo breedings, lesser to lesser and lesser to mojos.

So what are the white diamonds. All I can find is they are high yellow lemons bred together. (Russo line het leucistics)
Are they new? Imports?
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

They are commonly referred to as "Russos" or "het White Diamond" The first blue eyed lucy was produced from Vin Russo breeding 2 of these together. There is another name for them that is lemon something or other, I don't know. The russos are just another member of the Mojave complex. Mojave, Lesser, Butter, Russo, Mocha, and possibly others. These are all compatible in producing a blue eyed lucy.

Ahh ok. I didn't know they were mojo compatible.
I thought they were another blue eyed Lucie.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

Pretty sure these were the first blue-eyed leucistic bal pythons produced in captivity. They were produced first by Vin Russo in 2002:
http://cuttingedgeherp.com/pythons/item.nhtml?profile=pythons&UID=115
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-Jeff
http://jefflumanreptiles.com

They are also the whitest of the Blue Eyed Lucys (in my opinion)
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Sed et serpens erat callidior cunctis animantibus terrae quae fecerat Dominus Deus...

Hi,

Some Russos are very white and I have seen many that are not. Supposedly a het Russo bred to a Mojave produces the whitest, but I have been breeding an RDR lesser to faded Mojave for several years now and they have produced the whitest bel that I have seen. It depends more on the individual parents than the brand name. Same with pastels; some lemons are nice, others are fugly, some Graziani's, NERD's, Bell's...insert any lineage...are nice, others hit every branch on the fall down from the top of the ugly tree. We can't make generalizations about lineages any more. To say so and so's are better because of the lineage, is not true. These things have been inbred, outbred, line bred and sideways bred to the point where they don't resemble the imported founders any more. It just ain't true like it used to be.

Will

as i said, just my opinion
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Sed et serpens erat callidior cunctis animantibus terrae quae fecerat Dominus Deus...

It would be interesting to know what marketing, breeder practice, or genetic variation led to this first cb leucistic now being one of the relatively unknown members of the blue eyed leucistic complex (probably ahead of mocha though). Bet some luck is involved and also how much focus and promotion the original breeder puts into a project (thought I understood Russo to be a boa guy). But I have this theory that the higher price a morph starts out at the more quickly it gets reproduced but then again Mojave and Lesser seem about evenly distributed now even though Mojave started out a lot less expensive...