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Gravid Granite Mex Mex

Jlassiter Apr 15, 2011 06:08 PM

I got this girl from Don Shores in Daytona in 2009......
At a little over one year of age I put her down for the winter.....
At the beginning of March she started breeding.....around 18 months old
Now she is carrying 7 eggs.....at 20 months old.....

I guess we'll see if they are all fertile in a few weeks.....


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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Replies (6)

a153fish Apr 15, 2011 08:04 PM

Beautiful snake John. I hope all comes out ok.
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Jorge Sierra

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Jlassiter Apr 15, 2011 08:15 PM

>>Beautiful snake John. I hope all comes out ok.

Thanks Jorge......
Me too.....
My Hypo-E pair were the same age last year and she laid all her eggs no problem, except only two were fertile out of 6.......She was the same size as this girl last year....Now she has about 10 eggs in her..........

I think I provided a better brumation this year and did a few things different.........

Fingers crossed......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

a153fish Apr 16, 2011 01:54 PM

I think I remember reading that Calcium dust on their food helps prevent binding? I say I'm gonna do it, but I keep forgetting.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

Jlassiter Apr 16, 2011 05:32 PM

>>I think I remember reading that Calcium dust on their food helps prevent binding? I say I'm gonna do it, but I keep forgetting.

Who said anything about binding? My point was leading toward infertility.......

Calcium dusting will result in neonates dying in their eggs as they cannot cut through their thick egg shell.....

Binding is usually from infertile eggs.....Fertile eggs almost always get passed........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

a153fish Apr 18, 2011 07:31 AM

>>Calcium dusting will result in neonates dying in their eggs as they cannot cut through their thick egg shell.....
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>>Binding is usually from infertile eggs.....Fertile eggs almost always get passed........
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>>John Lassiter
>>Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...
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Really? hmmm, I hearing all sorts of new things here lately. How can we know eggs are infertile when they are retained? They usually get roughed up or drained, before they ever come out. If they come out.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

Jlassiter Apr 18, 2011 07:35 PM

>>Really? hmmm, I hearing all sorts of new things here lately. How can we know eggs are infertile when they are retained? They usually get roughed up or drained, before they ever come out. If they come out.

This isn't a new thing....You're just still new around here.....LOL

Because......When a female is full of infertile eggs she will pass a few one day....a couple the next.....and a couple the next.......And the last one or so may even become egg bound......and pass a few months later, next year or never......Infertile eggs stick to the oviduct walls.......Fertile eggs do not.......They get passed......

You do know there are two oviducts.....One can get eggbound and the snake can still become gravid in her other oviduct and pass them around the stuck egg in the other oviduct.....It's when she becomes gravid in the same oviduct that the rest of the eggs bind up and it usually causes death........But......Some females have passed the old egg along with nice fertile clutches behind it before......

The only cases of egg binding I have seen was from a bunch of infertile eggs.......It has nothing to do with size, weight, age, muscles.....It has everything to do with hydration and nesting.......But you must take into consideration a large female has WAY more reserves than a small female.......A smaller female can dehydrate easier than a larger female......

How do eggs get roughed up or drained? By Palpating them out??
I don't palpate and would advise no one to.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

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