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Veiled Eggs/Female question

Solomon Sep 28, 2003 10:46 PM

Hi there, I've been incubating 50 eggs for the past 99 days. I've been recording everything that happens too them, the size change, the temps, the humidity. So far I haven't lost an egg, and that really surprises me. This is the first clutch from my female and I was wondering how likely it would be that they are all fertile? Also, many of them are showing a pinkish, redish dot on them. What is this? and my last question, how long after laying a clutch does it take for her to lay a second? I know that from one encounter with a male, she could lay 2 - 3 clutches of fertile eggs.

Thanks for your time/help.
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1.1 Chameleo Calyptratus
1.1 Tangerine Leopard Geckos
1.1 Blue Spiny Lizards
1.1 Uroplatus Phantasticus
0.0.1 Yellow-Throated-Plated-Lizard
0.1 Moroccan Uromastyx
0.1 Bearded Dragon

Replies (4)

TylerStewart Sep 28, 2003 11:06 PM

If the eggs have made it 99 days, they are ALL fertile. If they weren't, they wouldn't have made it that long. Being alive is what keeps them from getting moldy. That's why infertile eggs go bad in a week or two. That doesn't nessesarily mean they will all hatch though. Several factors go into how many of them will hatch, beginning with the mother long before she was even gravid and continuing on into the incubation. Anything along the way can and will affect the development. Good job though on the record keeping. How did you keep track of the size changes? Measuring them? That's the only thing I don't keep track of, but I should be. The pinkish dot on them is just the embryo developing. If you get a very small MAGLITE, mine's about 2 inches long and runs on one AAA battery, and go in a dark room and hold the light up close to the top of it, you will see a color change when the egg is farther along. The first month or two it will be yellow and usually 3 months into it or sooner, they will turn an orangish red color. Sometimes you can evcen see a bit of a shape inside... Hard to know what it is. But it's interesting to try. Good luck and let us know what happens!

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Tyler Stewart
Las Vegas NV
1.2 Nosy Be Panthers
2.2 Sambava Panthers
1.0 Tamatave Panther
1.0 Nosy Be X Unknown Cross
1.1 Veiled Chameleons
0.0.2 CBB Desert Tortoises
0.0.1 Sulcatta Tortoise

Solomon Sep 29, 2003 09:34 AM

Wow, that's unbelieveable. I thought for sure I would lose some. Recording the size change wasn't that bad. I wasn't super accurate about it. Sometimes it was just by eye, when the egg not quite doubled in length, i would write it down. I kept them all on a grid system, egg A-1, egg A-2 and so on. The biggest size change I documented was 1/8". I've noticed my female wandering around her cage again, I think there's another clutch on the way. She's not half as big as she was the last time, which makes me feel better. I didn't want her to lay a huge clutch because of how much it taxes her system. So this time around I've been careful on how much I'm feeding her and supplementing.

Anyways, thanks for your help, I was hoping the red spots were the embryo's, I'll have to get a mag lite and candle them!
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1.1 Chameleo Calyptratus
1.1 Tangerine Leopard Geckos
1.1 Blue Spiny Lizards
1.1 Uroplatus Phantasticus
0.0.1 Yellow-Throated-Plated-Lizard
0.1 Moroccan Uromastyx
0.1 Bearded Dragon

TylerStewart Sep 29, 2003 05:53 PM

You still MAY lose some, come hatching time. Sometimes a few just won't hatch. Yeah, try the candling thing, it really makes you feel like you've accomplished something when you see the color change.... You realize that it's not just a bunch of white balls sitting there. 50 eggs sounds like a pretty big clutch. I'm not super "into" veileds, but my female veiled laid a 43 egg clutch. She was about 10 months old when bred. So she's a pretty big girl. I'm still waiting on clutch number 2. I've never been able to notice a real change in egg size. Maybe I'm just looking too often and don't notice a little growth.
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Tyler Stewart
Las Vegas NV
1.2 Nosy Be Panthers
2.2 Sambava Panthers
1.0 Tamatave Panther
1.0 Nosy Be X Unknown Cross
1.1 Veiled Chameleons
0.0.2 CBB Desert Tortoises
0.0.1 Sulcatta Tortoise

Solomon Sep 30, 2003 01:09 AM

I just wanted to show her off. This was taken when she was approx 8 months old, well before I bred her. I waited till she was 13 months old. It's a bad picture, but all that I have right now.

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1.1 Chameleo Calyptratus
1.1 Tangerine Leopard Geckos
1.1 Blue Spiny Lizards
1.1 Uroplatus Phantasticus
0.0.1 Yellow-Throated-Plated-Lizard
0.1 Moroccan Uromastyx
0.1 Bearded Dragon

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