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Female River Road Alterna......

Male River Road Alterna......

I picked up a few more Thayeri as well, but I need to get some better pics of them.......Not that the alterna pics are great by any means.....LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Nice!, I really like the "diamond"-shaped medallions on the female there.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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>>Nice!, I really like the "diamond"-shaped medallions on the female there.

Thanks Doug....
Those diamonds are classic River Road markings......Lajitas as well.......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Here's the 3.2 Thayeri I picked up as well.....Kinda decent pics.....LOL

All from some great bloodlines that have not been compromised.

The MSP Males:

The Leonis Females:


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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

OH, I like that last one a lot John

>>OH, I like that last one a lot John

Me too.....I think she is gravid as well.....So I have a nesting area in her enclosure.....All the males are ignoring her so I think she is passed her window and may lay some eggs....we'll see......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Hi John,
you got some more nice thayeris,
i like the last male most, wonderful dark orange MSP.

Can you tell us something about the lineage of this snakes?

yours
Michael

>>Hi John,
>>you got some more nice thayeris,
>>i like the last male most, wonderful dark orange MSP.
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>>Can you tell us something about the lineage of this snakes?

Thanks Michael....BTW it's (Mik - I - el) for those that don't know....LOL

The first Intermediate Thayeri was produced by Tom Anderson. Dan Vermilya X Vivid Reptiles pairing. He is the sibling brother to the third MSP posted.

The second MSP is a Vivid Reptiles animal once owned by Chris Flowers.

The fourth picture is a Leonis female produced by Jonel Lopez. Applegate / Baubel lineage.

The last female was produced by Chris Garcia.
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Some nice thayeri, too! This thread is sort of confusing. My first comment was about the pair of alternas.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

>>Some nice thayeri, too! This thread is sort of confusing. My first comment was about the pair of alternas.

I figured it out Bob....LOL
The replies go under the post you are replying too.....LOL

Thanks for the kind comments....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

She is a beauty! I love the diamond patterns on her which is difficult to find!

Tony
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You can never have only one snake!

>>She is a beauty! I love the diamond patterns on her which is difficult to find!

Thanks Tony......These diamonds aren't too uncommon within the River Road locale as well as the Lajitas locale....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Very nice John
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Tom S
1.1 Flame Lampropeltis getla Floridana
1.0 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
0.1 Axanthic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
0.1 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis
1.0 Anerythristic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis

>>Very nice John
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>>Tom S
>>1.1 Flame Lampropeltis getla Floridana
>>1.0 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
>>0.1 Axanthic Lampropeltis getula Floridana
>>0.1 Hypomelanistic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis
>>1.0 Anerythristic Lampropeltis triangulum hondurensis
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Those look like thayeri sort of, except for the bug eyes that grey bands have. The markings look sort of leonis. I am no alterna-thayeri expert, so please don't think I am insulting them or anything. They are beautiful.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

>>Those look like thayeri sort of, except for the bug eyes that grey bands have. The markings look sort of leonis. I am no alterna-thayeri expert, so please don't think I am insulting them or anything. They are beautiful.

In fact thayeri and alterna are closely related.....they both have similar stories.....
Alterna were once split into Blairi and Alterna. Everyone thought they were two different snakes until a w/c gravid female laid eggs and both hatched out of one clutch.
L. m. Leonis was the name first given to the South of the border montane kingssnakes in Nuevo Leon.....Then Milk Snake Phase and Leonis hatched out of a single clutch......Now they are called Thayeri but Most believe they should all be called Leonis since that was their first name...similar to the Alterna name kept for Gray Banded Kings.....
The MSP Thayeri are very similar to the Blairs Phase Alterna.
And the Leonis Thayeri are very similar to the Alternate Phase Alterna.......

And these are PURE River Road locale Gray Banded Kings (L. alterna).......I think they should still be called L. m. alterna, but I am kinda old school......I would like to think they are our North of the border Mexicana.....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...