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Because I'm such a moron with morphs.. lol

xelda Sep 29, 2003 01:26 AM

What is this little guy going to look like when he's grown up? He's about 4" long including the tail. I've never had such a tiny leo before! I got him for free, because the breeder who sold me Caesar "felt bad."
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chickabowwow

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Angel_Q Sep 29, 2003 02:11 AM

..hypo pastel/ghost.. The color is a bit faded & the pigmentation is dark..

royalgoldreps Sep 29, 2003 10:13 AM

It is not a ghost OR a pastel. The dark spots would have to be faded for it to be one of those.

It is definately a reduced pattern high yellow from what I can see. I like the spotting on the tail. That is really cool. If you have the parents I would breed it back and see what happens.
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Steven
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StarGecko Sep 29, 2003 05:27 PM

doesn't look yellow at all. More of dull tan. But definately at least a reduced pattern, looks like it may very likely turn out hypo.
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royalgoldreps Sep 29, 2003 09:07 PM

Check out the picture again. There are NO spots on the hind legs. This is the main defining factor that sets the High Yellow morph apart. I am giving the dull color leniency, it could be a short term stress thing.

LGGG
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

xelda Sep 29, 2003 10:41 PM

I didn't think he was a high yellow, because he only has a minimal amount of yellow to him.
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chickabowwow

bradley Sep 29, 2003 10:41 PM

a very bright yellow would also determines a high yellow, and no spots on the hind legs can just as well fit other color phases. It could be a short term stress, but I doubt it and the picture is showing the gecko's true colors. I think a ghost fits the title well, as it is reduced spotted and a rather dull coloration which fully fits the "Ghost" standards.
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Bradley Baquial

royalgoldreps Sep 30, 2003 10:36 AM

The spots are way too distinct to be a ghost or a pastel. It is an aberant high yellow. I do not see anything that would justify any other classification.
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

StarGecko Sep 30, 2003 02:17 AM

No spots on hind legs is also sign of hypo, not all hypos are yellow. I believe a crucial element of the hi yellow mporph is also that is has to be YELLOW, otherwise is just reduced spotting.
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Sarah Stettler aka Starling
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royalgoldreps Sep 30, 2003 10:42 AM

There is way too much spotting to call it a hypo too. It is NOT a ghost, it is NOT a pastel, the spots are not faded enough. I am not sure I buy the rainbow morph classification. Not a stripe.

Only thing that fits is aberrant high yellow as far as I can tell.

What would you call it?
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

StarGecko Sep 30, 2003 01:10 PM

Not a high yellow as it is not yellow. Not a hypo yet but it is still young, may end up with less than ten spots.

That being said I'm very fuzzy on what people are calling ghost these days, seems like it's any dull-colored (which is normal in the wild) gecko with reduced spotting/hypo. I don't get it.
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Sarah Stettler aka Starling
Sarah@stargecko.com
StarGecko.Com COMING SOON! Star Quality Leopard Geckos
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Angel_Q Sep 30, 2003 03:38 AM

Ooops, I´m sorry, my mistake.. Thanks royalgoldreps, I didn´t know that the pigmentation also should be faded..

tolc101 Sep 29, 2003 03:42 PM

I've seen those at pet shows. Their called Hyper Xanthic. I've seen juvies sold for $125 at a show. I think when they get older small spots of orange pop up on the back and some on the tail.

Angel_Q Sep 30, 2003 03:50 AM

What is it then??
*My head is spinning around*.. haha

royalgoldreps Sep 30, 2003 10:39 AM

I understand you are not saying it is, but UNTIL that happens it cannot be called that. Just because it MIGHT happen, does not justify calling it that.
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

tolc101 Sep 30, 2003 10:55 AM

and the patters almost match exactly.... but what do i know

royalgoldreps Sep 30, 2003 01:49 PM

to be snippy. The caps are just for emphasis. I was not discounting your contribution. Just trying to make a point. Don't feel bad about it, it was not you.

Too many people try to gage an animals morph or whatever way too early. It take time for things to develope and everyone tries to rush the call to see if they have or can convince others that they have an expensive or new thing.
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Steven
Royal Gold Reptiles
Offspring available now from LV Patternless Albino stock for '03 and '04.
Working towards Bell Patternless Albinos for '05.

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