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Ok - dwarfs are eating again - problem with slipping now

jsinger May 26, 2003 06:09 PM

ok - so both of my dwarf jacksons like to climb and sleep upside down of their screen enclosure

sometimes when they are walkin on the top they slip, and i am afraid they will fall one day and die

is there anything i can do to stop them from falling?
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Jason Singer

Replies (10)

Justyn May 26, 2003 06:39 PM

Jason, if you really want us to give you good advice with these animals please let everyone know they are dwarf panthers and not dwarf jacksons. I know you pissed of a couple people a while ago, but changing the species and the user name will not help you with anything, in fact we may be giving you the wrong info. Please tell everyone the truth and move on.
Thanks
Justyn
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Justyn
Intense Herpetoculture

jsinger May 26, 2003 06:46 PM

ok - they ARE dwarf panthers and yes i was here before

i wanted people to actually hlp me tho rather than gnoring when i posted and i do need the help
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Jason Singer

lele May 26, 2003 08:35 PM

Justyn was not the only one who suspected this - I did, too and know for a fact that at least one other poster did as well (and I am sure many more)and I was very near "blowing your cover."

I thought it after your very first post as jsinger, but I figured if it was in fact you that you were just trying to get a fresh start and that it would be difficult due to your recent history - sort of like being tried for a crime in the town that you did it and not getting a fair trial!

I decided that you were making this effort and I understand it, but I was also concerned about your chams care and health. As Justyn pointed out Jax and panthers have very different requirements and taking the wrong advice from people could cause them harm.

As far as I am concerned I feel that if you come clean in a post of your own, which I know will make you feel better - even relieved, and you continue to ask necessary, well thought out questions and actually TAKE the advice that is given (now there's a novel thought, huh? LOL), read the articles and books that are suggested, check out web sites and be mature about this whole thing, then I will treat you fairly. Of course, if any of that changes and there's another episode like your tantrum with John...well...I think you know what outcome that will bring.

So 'fess up and get reconnected, if for no other reason the health of your chams

lele

jsinger May 26, 2003 09:24 PM

ok - i admit i was wrong

i only used the jax as a way to see if i would get any help under a new name, not actually using the advice on my own chams

write now, i am having 2 problems with my dwarf PANTHERS and i want some help please

1. they are not eating like they usually do ... i noticed this a couple of days ago and was wondering if this is normal, and they are just living off of the food from previous days

2. they bothe hang upside down from their SCREEN (lol) cage, and sometimes slip and nearly fall. because they are delicate i was wondering if there was anything i could do to perhaps prevent them from falling

i would just like to point out to everyone who i may not be on their good side ... i do infact take excellent care of my chams, and i do provide the best care for them

1 male veiled . 4 feet high, 3 feet wide, 2 feet deep . heat lamp, basking spot at 95F . plenty of climbing room and vines . buying a fiscus for him soon . i do not have an auto-mister, but he does in fact get sprayed 4 times a day, and is recovering from dehydration

2 female dwaf panthers . SEPARATE SCReEN CAGES . they are both still gravid, one layed a few days ago, but still has some eggs . the eggs ae currently being incubated . they come from a mounainous aea so in their enclosures there is a lot of foilage, but not so much that i cannot see them .

all three of my chams started as being hand fed, and the dwarfs still are . the veiled does not like to come out, so he is being cup fed

please everyone, do not old my past actions against me now ... i admit i was wrong, but i really do know my stuff, and my chams really are taken care of well

if anyone has the answers to the questions above about my DWARF PANTHER CHAMELEONS, let me know
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Jason Singer

ridgra1 May 26, 2003 09:34 PM

Jason, Before someone obtains a chameleon they should thoroughly research that species and find out from many different sources what that particular cham's need are. Before I brought back my Jacksons from Hawaii I researched for more than a month reading everything I could about Jacksons (I read at least one new Jackson article per day all on the internet and free). Among other things I found out that Jacksons will periodically go on hunger strikes where they all but stop eating for several weeks or more. Many breeders and keepers feed their chams every other day so not eating every day is no big deal! They are also quite sure footed and rarely fall accidently although they have been known to "jump" from heights when frightened (especially babies). As long as you're using climbing fixtures that they can grip there should be no problem. So do your homework, get knowledgeable as quickly as possibly and you'll find that others will eagerly share their knowledge when you do have a good question. When elementary questions are asked I tend to wonder why one would have obtained the cham before knowing how to care for it. I also feel sorry for the novices cham and answer the question anyway. Rick

jsinger May 26, 2003 09:36 PM

n/p
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Jason Singer

ridgra1 May 26, 2003 09:39 PM

Then what are they? Do you even have chameleons?

lele May 26, 2003 10:56 PM

ridgra1,

there has been some conflict with Jason recently and he is making amends. He owns two dwarf panthers (sorry that I am speaking for you here, Jason) and got them from someone with bad information so he is still working thru some of that by trying to get help from this forum. So know the history before you attack - please, and offer help when you can.

Thanks,
lele

>>Then what are they? Do you even have chameleons?

compasscreek May 27, 2003 12:00 AM

jason i too am new to chameleons. the very first thing i do when i develop an interest in something is search the web for everything i can find on the subject. i my search for info on chameleons, i was a little oveerwhelmed with WHAT was being said. chameleons seemed a bit labor too intensive to have as a PET. after much thought and inquire i came to the realization that these are not like NORMAL PETS and are more for "show" then play. anyway in addition to my web search i bought a book, "care and breeding of chameleons" and did the same thing as you have done, asked questions to make sure what i was reading was the norm and to see what my options are. aftewr this i looked for a breeder. everyone seemed to rave about kammerflage kreations so i sent an email to them AND two other breeders. kammerflage was/is the only one that a. answered my email and b. seemed honestly interested in their chameleons. more like i was buying or asking about THIER children then just something that could be sold to make a couple bucks. i am very happy i went with them in buying my nosey be' panther and can't wait for him to arrive.

anyway what i'm getting at is IF you do have the experince you claim to have with "herps" you would not be asking the questions you are. this really does NOT matter though as you have the chameleons now and whether or not you have had anything before NOW is the time for you to ask real questions AND read a book or two AND do a few WEB searches. i wish you, Ichiro, Mika, & Toki and the babies luck. being a novice myself and with my current workload i know i would not think about taking on more then one chameleon, let alone a bunch of babies!

dennis
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compasscreek backcountry adventures

jsinger May 27, 2003 08:21 AM

ok i honestly have had chams for 2.5 years now, and when i first began i found all the info i needed (or thought i did) at the time ... i had lost intrest in them, but recently regained my intrest, and decided to buy the amazing dwarf panthers .. they really are unbeleivable!

anyways, when i first cam back on my intent was to gather up info on both of the new chams, along with the older one ... this brings my to a question which i will post on a new board in a few minutes
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Jason Singer

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