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i think somethings wrong...please help me!!!

sugerplum12703 Sep 29, 2003 08:23 AM

i just got a breaded dragon about 3 weeks ago and just yesterday my boyfriend noticed to what seem to me a lump on her side. NOw we did just get another one last wed.which was a boy. does anyone know what it might be?

Replies (14)

tubzzzz Sep 29, 2003 08:34 AM

can you take a picture.... or describe it ? like where exactly is it...is it a different color... is it soft, hard...

sugerplum12703 Sep 29, 2003 08:48 AM

well i cant take a pic..but its not hard and it kinda looks like an oval shape. ill have to ask my b/f to try to take a pic. you dont think it could be an egg? shes only 3 1/2 months old.

Mattman Sep 29, 2003 10:00 AM

It's not an egg. She's still to young, but I would not house a male and female together anyway. Lots of times the males can cause problems for the females and stress them out. I'm not sure what this lump is, maybe a nip? Really can't say, any disscoloration? I suggest if it does not go away to make an appointment to see a vet. Lumps are not normal. Has she gone to the bathroon is the lump on her side or on her tummy?
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sugerplum12703 Sep 29, 2003 10:05 AM

well they both get along good and i dont think its a nip. um the lump is on her side but now that i think of it ..it loks like a lil on her tummy. i guess if it doesnt go away in a few days then ill taje her to vet. sorry i dont have a pic.

ToniaD Sep 29, 2003 10:50 AM

they shouldn't be housed together. Even though they get along, the male will still cause her stress. How old is the male? Any new dragon you bring home should be quarantined for at least 30, & preferably 90, days. This allows time for any bacterial illness or viruses that they may be carrying to appear. During that time, a wellness check & fecal exam performed by an experienced herp vet is also in order.
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God Bless, Beardie Dreams, & Peace!
Pogoniacs

sugerplum12703 Sep 29, 2003 10:53 AM

they are both the same age. we bought them from the same guy and there were together before we bought them. can i put them in too different cages now or is it to late? Infact when we put them together she started waving her hand. it might not be anything. im going to have my boyfriend look at her when he gets home. Also can they get stressed out if we dont hold them?

ToniaD Sep 29, 2003 11:13 AM

No, it's not too late to separate them. Waving is a gesture showing submissiveness. As early as when they're 5-6 mths. old, they can begin to display breeding behaviours & possibly attempt to mate, if housed together. That's TOO young for dragons. It will stress the female & jeopardize her health. Separating them now is good! As far as stressing from NOT holding them, the opposite is generally true--dragons tend to become stressed from handling too much as soon as you bring them home. Give them time to adjust to you & their new home; don't hold them for a few days, then just hold them for a couple of minutes once or twice a day, & gradually increase the time. If they show ANY signs of stress while you're holding them, return them to their enclosure.

Welcome to the wonderful addiction of dragons! We're here to help however we can, & we LOVE pictures!
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God Bless, Beardie Dreams, & Peace!
Pogoniacs

svt-sinister Sep 29, 2003 12:07 PM

Well im sugarplums boyfriend and im gonna build a 4x2x2 cage. I guess ill seperate them when the cage is done...Should i put the male of female in the built cage. The cage i have now is a 20 gallon aquarium.

svt-sinister Sep 29, 2003 12:08 PM

oh i forgot. Instead of seperating them could i put 2 females together instead. if so. Then i guess ill trade my 3 1/2 month old male for a female.

sgoodson1 Sep 29, 2003 12:23 PM

Take the one with the lump to the vet and seperate them all till you figure out what the exact problem is. This will help control the situation till its resolved. But take the one with the lump to a vet to be diagnosed! asap, hope this helps, scott

ToniaD Sep 29, 2003 01:50 PM

You could put 2 females together, but there's still a chance they won't get along. If you decide to keep 2 females, just watch them closely; they can decide to not get along anytime, even after being housed together for a long time.

How is the female w/ the lump doing? Have you been able to arrange for a visit to a herp vet? Let us know if there's anything we can do to help!
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God Bless, Beardie Dreams, & Peace!
Pogoniacs

sugerplum12703 Sep 29, 2003 02:02 PM

i just want to thank all of you for your help. i think we are going to wait a few days to see what goes on. um i do want to keep both of them but like my boyfriend says if shes getting stressed out do toy think that maybe after we build the cage they will be ok cause there will be more room inside?.

ToniaD Sep 29, 2003 02:15 PM

...although a 20 gal. tank is too small for the both of them. I wouldn't wait too long to have the lump looked at; most animals, beardies especially, are ill for awhile before they show any signs of illness.
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God Bless, Beardie Dreams, & Peace!
Pogoniacs

CheriS Sep 29, 2003 08:30 PM

If it is, try this, hold the baby in your hand and arch it the other way slighty... do you feel or see it on that side too?

If you do, its natural, it is cartiledge that is like a floating rib they use to expand their sides when basking. You are seeing it when she is deflated and because babies do not have the fat layer that build up after a few months when you no longer can see or hardly feel it.

Most people only see it on one side that the dragons usually favor, but it is on the other side too if this is what it is.

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