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Hello! my name is peter,I come from Taiwan.This is my snake.Is this a California kingsnake(striped or lavender or chocolate-striped)?I want to know the detail about my snake,please help me,thanks.

I can't see his DNA.

Just kidding he's very pretty1 I'm not a Cal king expert so I'll let others comment.
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Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

I resized and cropped one of the images so as to see the whole snake without having to scroll all over the place.

Forgot what was the question, though! LOL!
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

That was very helpfull!
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

That is a very typical example of a Newport-Long Beach phenotype(physical look).

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

Hey Peter!!!!
Please forgive my buddy Jorge!!!! He was horribly abused as a child!!!!LOL Yup, that's a California King and I agree with Doug. Good example of Newport Phenotype!!!! Another way to describe it is to call it aberrant patterned!!! And a good looking one at that!!! Thanks for sharing it with us.

Pat Glazener-Cooney

>>Hey Peter!!!!
>>Please forgive my buddy Jorge!!!! He was horribly abused as a child!!!!LOL Yup, that's a California King and I agree with Doug. Good example of Newport Phenotype!!!! Another way to describe it is to call it aberrant patterned!!! And a good looking one at that!!! Thanks for sharing it with us.

LOL......
Would it be safe to say that the Newport look is a coastal, aberrant phenotype?.....Newport is Newport Beach, CA - correct?
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Would it be safe to say that the Newport look is a coastal, aberrant phenotype?.....

NOPE! At east not in the broad sense that you may mean.

Newport is Newport Beach, CA - correct?

Yep!

I will let Doug explain the rest since he is so helpful.
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Cool....thanks......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
Jorge Sierra

My Site > www.Sierrasnakes.com

Its not a Newport because the stripe continues down the tail. Newport's are solid brown above the tail. The question is, is the light coloring yellow or white? Pictures can be very deceiving when it comes to those colors. Also, baby kings can have a cream/whitish look, but turn more yellow as they mature. Either way, its a striped king and very likely the high amount of light pigment on the sides is the result of selective breeding. Kings that look like this are often called high white if the snake is white, or a banana if its yellow. Nice looking snake.

Kings that look like this are often called high white if the snake is white, or a banana if its yellow. Nice looking snake.

Didn't each one of these "morphs" (High White and Banana) derive from Newport Kings?
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

"Didn't each one of these "morphs" (High White and Banana) derive from Newport Kings?"

Well, the "banana's" certainly did historically. Many years ago they were nothing more than slightly higher yellow Newports. I think of traditional "high-whites" as being Desert 50-50's that have been progressively line-bred for drastically reduced pattern, sometimes well into the 90 to 95 plus percent white range. But now days there seems to be alot of the high-white Desert phase lineage in alot of different things, and vice-versa. Now days, as you probably do too, I see quite a few snakes that aren't really "white" at all being called "high-white", but in reality, they are simply very reduced pattern line-bred composites of the Newports and Desert 50-50 phenotypes. Some whiter, and some yellower, some more patterned, and some less patterned from different pecentages of these two lineages.

If you do a google image search on "Banana Cal. kings", you will see the traditional old-school Newport-Long Beach's, and you will see extremely white snakes too. But you can definitely see the vague random Newport pattern in the much whiter snakes from their 50-50 gene-flow.

I have definitely seen a shift in their terminology over the years, as well as their phenotypes. I mean....when was the last time anyone has gone to the grocery store, and seen snow-white bananas in the produce section..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

The original high yellow kings had newporter, san diego stripe, L.A. airport, melanistic. The original high whites added a Cal city 70% white king.

Good info, Doug! They should have fed the not so white or not so yellow offspring to other kings when creating the banana and high white morphs. lol Now there's a whole bunch of in betweens.

"Its not a Newport because the stripe continues down the tail. Newport's are solid brown above the tail"

You're right Ross, I was scrolling all over the place on those billboard-sized pics earlier, and was looking for the "chocolate-topped" tail myself, but didn't see it in any I looked at so I assumed it had a wide brown "chocolate-topped" tail there somewhere..LOL!. Then when I read your post, I went back and scrolled around some more, and did actually see the tail past the cloaca..LOL!...and yep!, I saw a complete light stripe. Just as you said, it isn't a Newport-Long Beach morph, but a striped variant of some sort likely from line-breeding certain lineages.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

my website -Serpentine Specialties

I had to copy all of them to my computer to see them resized and then found the tail. I wasn't finding the tail scrolling around on the large picture either.

Hi,the light color is yellow and the dark color is chocolate,thanks.

I'd call it a banana Cal king.

Thank you for teaching me,I learned a lot.In Taiwan,I can't find a good book about king snake.