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Mojave?

JohnRobinson May 02, 2011 08:50 PM

I purchased this python at a reptile show this weekend. It was offered as a male Mojave. Most of the snakes that I keep are pretty wirey and I wanted a nice calm "pet" snake so my grandson can get comfortable handling a snake. My question for you is "do you think that this is a Mojave? It's a pretty aberrant one at best and some of it's features just don't seem quite right to me. The head fades from dark chocolate eye lines to a light brown on top. The belly is white but the colors on the back fade two thirds of the way down along the full length of the sides to a creamy yellow. It is hard to really see this in the photo but with snake in hand it is quite noticable. What is your opinion of the probable genetic make-up of this one? Thanks for your wisdom!

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nace May 02, 2011 09:26 PM

Pastel not Mojave

BuzzardBall May 02, 2011 10:22 PM

I doubt Pastel or Mojave!

lairofdragons May 02, 2011 10:22 PM

AGREED..pastel
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magicalmorphs May 02, 2011 10:32 PM

Not a mojave.................definately look like a pastel. Chris

pitoon May 03, 2011 01:14 AM

if i had to put money down on it...i would say pastel.....definitely not mojave.

who ever you bought that from obviously don't know what they are selling.

Pitoon

>>I purchased this python at a reptile show this weekend. It was offered as a male Mojave. Most of the snakes that I keep are pretty wirey and I wanted a nice calm "pet" snake so my grandson can get comfortable handling a snake. My question for you is "do you think that this is a Mojave? It's a pretty aberrant one at best and some of it's features just don't seem quite right to me. The head fades from dark chocolate eye lines to a light brown on top. The belly is white but the colors on the back fade two thirds of the way down along the full length of the sides to a creamy yellow. It is hard to really see this in the photo but with snake in hand it is quite noticable. What is your opinion of the probable genetic make-up of this one? Thanks for your wisdom!
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JohnRobinson May 03, 2011 06:29 AM

Well,That's OK because who ever was buying it didn't know what they were buying! I selected this animal because it was "outgoing" for a ball python and not as head-shy and retractive. I'll probably never try to breed it but I was just curious about what I have. Thanks to all for sharing your knowledge and experience. If I ever part with this guy I'll book him as a probable pastel not a mojave.

robyn@ProExotics May 03, 2011 03:39 PM

It isn't OK to me to see you be ripped off by either an ignorant seller or a straight up thief. That is obviously not a Mojave, and no more than a $50 Pastel adult.

Just because you didn't know the difference doesn't make it ok to be taken advantage of. And now that seller is on to the next victim. And with money in their pocket.
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JYohe May 03, 2011 06:20 PM

then offer solution?

....it IS a pastel....

what did you pay???

people at shows have boxes and display racks, cages, whatever you call them, they put snakes in them and sell them and move them all around and at times don't change the labels...I have seen hundreds of mislabeled snakes at shows....they are lazy or just didn't notice or whatever....all the time I see it....BUT I KNOW what is usually in the box ..(not always) when I look at it...and if it seems appropriate I tell them to relabel it...or take label off...or switch, they have 2 mixed up ....etc etc etc...

so...you pay 50$ to 100$ or mojave price of $200 to 400....???

...Thanxx ...good luck....!~
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JohnRobinson May 03, 2011 09:05 PM

The fellow I got him from was a hard corps dendrobatid guy. It was the only reptile he had on his table and he was asking $125 for the animal. I offered $90 and he accepted saying that he was delighted just to get it off his table and to not have to take it home. He said he was selling it for a friend. I have been keeping snakes for 50 years including many ball pythons and I was satisfied that this snake was both healthy and had the disposition that I was looking for as a first snake for my young grandson. Since my intention was not to buy a breeder I didn't care what morph it was. I had my doubts about it being a mojave but I knew it was some kind of morph and almost certainly captive raised and I was perfectly happy to pay $90 for the animal. I saw every pastel in the show (both babies and adults) and none were going for $50. In my opinion anyone who raises a ball from a baby deserves $90.00. Heck, it probably ate $90 worth of rodents over it's lifetime! So, was the seller a con man and did I get ripped off? I report...you decide!

kingofspades May 04, 2011 05:08 PM

Nah, that's about right.
As long as you didn't pay Mojave prices.
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JYohe May 04, 2011 06:48 PM

/...not ripped....90 is fine...there were adult pastels there for 65$ and maybe I could get them for 50$ , but we don't want them or need them....we use double and triple morphs...this is why pastels took a dump for males...it sucks....

yes...snakes run me estimated 50$ each per year to clean and feed let's say....

you are happy...all that matters....

....have fun...good luck...
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kingofspades May 03, 2011 05:57 PM

What did you pay for him?
If you were charged for a mojave, and got a pastel...that's not ok.

Male mojos go for about $200-250.
Male pastels sell for $75-100.

Bit of a price difference.
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"What is man without the beasts?
If all the beasts were gone,
men would die from great loneliness of spirit.
For what happens to the beasts,
soon happens to men.
All things are connected."

-Chief Seattle (Duwamish Tribe)

ohernz May 03, 2011 05:09 AM

Not a Mojave...Looks like a Pastel to me
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TerryHeuring May 03, 2011 09:52 PM

Pastel

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