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This is my first time posting, and i thought it would be a good time to get some opinions on my normal male. He looks normal in every way as far as i can tell, but he has a spot on the top of his head. I just wanted to see if anyone had any thoughts on that. I wasn't planning on ever breeding him - he was my first ball python, and is more of a pet - but if anyone has seen that before or knows if it might be genetic, i just might give it a try. Sorry about the bad pics - i could NOT get him to hold still. (The white patch on his head is dry skin - from an old scar, i think. It always sheds bad just in that spot.)

I honestly think there is a genetic element to it. What that is, I am not sure anyone is pushing to find out, but I have noticed some of my females consistently have babies with these spots (some looking more like a heart, T, or a sign).

I have two normal babies from last year (one male and one female) that have speckled "granite-like" sides, and both have a light spot on the right side of their noses. I kept them to see what happens when I breed them.
What are the odds that two siblings (from different eggs) would come out looking so much alike?
Mother is normal, father is a pastel
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What leads you to believe he's a normal?

As far as I'm concerned, that's a Cinny.

A always just assumed he was normal. I bought him as a normal (which doesn't mean much, i know) and he looks normal to me. I am thinking about trying him with a normal female later this year now anyway. Here's a belly shot of him if it makes a difference. I know his side pattern is kind of wierd, but his color is not real remarkable in any way. I'll try to get a picture in better light.

Here are some better pics.

From the top, he screams Cinny, to me. Not so much from the bottom though. I don't know...Oddball.

sorry i dont see it. i have hatched out many cinny, blk pastels, and pewters. that looks nothing like my adult cinny or my adult blk pastel. i will post a pic when i get a chance. go to worldofballpythons.com and look at the morphs page. you will get a better look at cinnys. i think you have a nice normal.

Whoa, you're absolutely right. Haha! I think I need to check the color and contrast on my work monitor. That's weird. And I've hatched out a couple dozen Cinnies myself. Earlier, it looked just like one of my adult females. Not anymore on this screen though. Screams normal now. WTF? My fault.

He looks normal to me...
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Sed et serpens erat callidior cunctis animantibus terrae quae fecerat Dominus Deus...

Check out the Cinnamon characteristics here: http://www.nextworldexotics.com/hgcin.htm
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Sed et serpens erat callidior cunctis animantibus terrae quae fecerat Dominus Deus...