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Okay, what's up with this hypo?

shiari May 15, 2011 01:29 AM

Straight up hypo is not something I have any real experience with. This guy is residing (for the moment *cough*) at the local petco and he's just... odd. When I first saw him, it was just his tail and I thought "Oh! A ghost!"... and then the head popped up out of the aspen

Who's had hatchlings like this? What can I expect him to grow up to be like? And (hoping not, actually) is he anything other than just a slightly odd Hypo A?

Some other info: He was paired with 3 other corns in the bin; a normal, a caramel, and a normal-style hypo. All 4 shed over the last 2 days. There was one shed in the bin when I found him. It was as clear as you would expect from a snow. His belly is FULL of checkers, all of which are an incredibly pale gray.

Please forgive the picture quality. He was squirmy as hell, and the lighting was poor.



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a153fish May 15, 2011 05:18 AM

Not really sure, but it does look interesting. You know Corns can change so much as the mature, it's hard to guess. Looks kinda Amber though?
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DMong May 15, 2011 11:12 AM

That certainly IS a keeper!. But as to knowing with any certainty what it will ultimately look like(or even it's true genotype without knowing it's parent lineage) is pretty much impossible to be quite honest. As Jorge mentioned, and you already know, they can all change DRASTICALLY as they mature.

That is a very cool phenotype, because I would imagine there could still be a substantial difference in coloration from front to back as it is showing now. The front half looks like it will have a nice orange coming in, as it is displaying the tell-tale orange stripe across it's back. The rear portion will be VERY interesting to see as it matures!.

Could even also be a partial "hypo-erythristic"(reduced red/orange), who knows????

Whatever it is, it is pretty darn interesting though..

~Doug
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Shiari May 15, 2011 06:59 PM

Here is (temp name) What-the. Handsome little beast.

Whole body shot in some semi-sun:

It may not be a blue *bowl*, but the blue lid to the breeding bin works almost as well.

Tummy shot showing the many pale checkers. His stomach also has pinkish pigment down the entire length so his stomach will be quite interesting when he grows.

a153fish May 16, 2011 06:38 PM

Seems to have hypo in him, ghost could very well be since ghost is hypo X Anery. Post some updated pics as he grows
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DMong May 16, 2011 09:29 PM

Very bizarre!. I think the name..."What-the" is quite fitting..LOL!

A definite KEEPER!!. It would be VERY interesting to see what it's phenotype becomes as it matures.

I would probably breed that to just a known hypo "A" animal, to at least prove, or disprove the hypo "A" gene right off the bat. And if it is, and whatever anomaly it is also displaying is heritable too, you will automatically have hypo het(whatevers) for it too all in one shot without making it far more complicated with other recessive genes mixed into the equation. Know what I mean?..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Shiari May 17, 2011 01:01 AM

Definitely some good advice, thankyou. There *is* another male of his phenotype at the store. I'm thinking about nabbing him as well just to have the pair of then. I might name that one "Heck".

DMong May 20, 2011 02:08 PM

you're welcome!.....

Yes, I would definitely score that one as well! Hopefully it is the opposite sex, but even if not, you have another odd one to play with regardless.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

shadylady May 16, 2011 08:23 AM

n/p
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Godfrey May 18, 2011 03:02 PM

I could be very wrong, but it looks a lot like this. This is a photo of a 2008 Kastanie taken when she was about six months old. Very similar. This one looked more like yours when it was smaller. The reds and yellows became more pronounced with age. I think I would get the other one and make a pair.

Shiari May 20, 2011 01:15 PM

Pretty sure this pair is late-blooming hypos, but they should be really pretty ones.




DMong May 20, 2011 03:49 PM

Yep!,..they sure have the muted-down hypo look to me too.

"Heck"..LOL!!

Yeah, "What-the" and "Heck" are great names..

~Doug
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