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Hatched here this morning! As far as I know these are the first ones produced and the first clutch of the year to hatch for me. Sorry the pictures are not the best but they will have to do for now. Out of six eggs got 1.1 pastel desert ghost!, 0.1 pastel desert het ghost, 0.1 pastel ghost, 1.0 ghost and 0.1 het so I just about covered all the bases in this clutch. The PDG are super purple and deep orange underneath all the shiny egg slime. Will update after they shed out.

first a pic of one of the pastel desert ghost and the pastel desert het and then one of the pastel desert ghost by itself..

as always the desert gene makes stuff even more amazing

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Congrats on some awesome combos, but I think calling them "desert ghosts" and "pastel desert ghosts" is just asking for confusion with the recessive desert ghost morph. To me, calling them hypo deserts or desert hypos makes more sense. At the very least, calling them ghost deserts seems like a better choice. Just my $0.02.

As stated in my first post these are pro exotic line desert, pastel and orange ghost. Three gene animals. Hope this clears things up for you.

Yeah, I know what they are. Hence my post saying not to call them "desert ghosts".

Just using the names as they are for each of the three genes. Sorry if your not a fan but if PE desert pastel ghost as I posted was clear enough for you to understand then I dont see what is so confusing? If you figured it out then why wouldn't the other readers be able to do the same?

The term "desert pastel ghost" used in the subject heading is fine. However, you called it a "pastel desert ghost" four separate times in the body of your post. I'm just saying that the term "desert ghost" already refers to another snake, thus making it sound like you have a pastel/desert ghost rather than a pastel/desert/ghost.

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Sorry. In my excitement I used the disputed verbiage in the body of my post. Forever more I will refer to them only as PE desert pastel ghost. Thanks for your input.

maybe using the word "hypo" (that is the really meaning of "ghost" for balls) it would make everything easier
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I agree.....I think most people that deal with balls refer to the mutation as ghost as opposed to hypo, but what ever he decides to call it it's an awesome snake!!! Hypo would be less confusing though..... Chris

I agree.
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If PE jumped of a bridge, would you?

A Ghost is the double recessive in all other sub-species, why be different with p. regius when we all know they are in fact Hypomelanistic, why further ad to the confusion when there is already a mutation called a Desert Ghost?

Nice Hypo Pastel Desert

Call them what you will but I call these snakes AWESOME!!!! Congrats Josh.

That's so true. I didn't mean to take away from the fact that it's an incredible snake. Josh should be very proud.

What? No I wouldn't jump off a bridge if PE did but I would refer to the line of animal that I used to produce something new. Both Pete Kahll and PE have co Dom desert animals. This was what I used to produce these and thats why I mention Pro exotics in my post. I produced these and as such get to call them anything I like. Purple unicorn ball, Casper ulgly moo moo pants ball, or PE desert pastel ghost ball. I'm glad for the input good or bad and it's been noted.

I don't know, I kinds like the sound of the Casper Ugly Moo Moo Pants Ball now that you've mentioned it. Josh once again I tip my hat to ya.

Thanks..

That's an awesome CUMMP you got there...
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Ball Pythons - 0.1 Pastel, 1.0 Pastel het Pied, 0.1 Pied, 0.1 Cinn, 1.0 Black Pewter, 1.0 Woma (hidden gene?), 0.1 Yellowbelly
2.1 Normals
Kingsnakes - 1.0 L. m. thayeri, 0.1 L. m. thayeri X L. alterna, 1.0 L. g. californiae
Other - 0.1 Whitesided P. catenifer sayi, 1.0 H. nascicus, ?.? Chrysemys picta, 0.1 crazy cat, 1.0 husband

I even get confused reading it!!!

SATAN

>>Congrats on some awesome combos, but I think calling them "desert ghosts" and "pastel desert ghosts" is just asking for confusion with the recessive desert ghost morph. To me, calling them hypo deserts or desert hypos makes more sense. At the very least, calling them ghost deserts seems like a better choice. Just my $0.02.
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What an awesome combo,that thing glows!..Big congrats to you!

..,and name it whatever you like!..It IS your snake!

My two cents on the name? It's missing the Axanthic gene,let alone the possible confusion with the recessive Desert ghost(Which ironically,is also missing the Axanthic gene.lol).
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Josh,
That is smokin hot, congrats! Casper Ugly Moo Moo Pants rocks.
Rich

That's a beautiful snake, but I really think you should call it Casper Moo Moo Ugly Pants as I have already used the Moo Moo Pants name for a dinker project of mine...

Very nice!
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We use the Ghost terminology because that is what they were called way back when. My brain has struggled/resisted the change to the Hypo term, even though I use that term referring to other color mutations in other species.

I keep trying to say Hypo, but then Chad says Ghost and it breaks me back down. And then I do the same to him. PE Andy is a newer school keeper, I wonder if he thinks we are dumdums.

I have started a conversation with Chad and Andy to step away from the Desert name altogether, to alleviate further confusion. We'll see where that goes...
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REALLY? Raise your hand if you HONESTLY belived that Josh made an Axanthic Hypo Desert ghost Pastel... common sence is sometimes... just sometimes the answer.. I like ghost for hypo, I doubt it will ever be run out of our verbage..

Just my .02
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I am all for the name change as well. The names desert and desert ghost are too similar. Mix that up with the morphs made from each and someone is asking for trouble when selling offspring. Or even buyers who don't read, contacting the seller only to change the deal after multiple conversations after finding out that the buyer wanted the other gene instead.
Ps... my new Des. Pin. is doing well.
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Not a problem until both price really come down.

Desert Ghost are way more expensive than desert (who still kinda expensive).

But it will eventually turn out that way.
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Nm
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