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Hallo everyone,I just want to show you pics of my sinaloe x nelsoni breeding.Should I consider babys as hybrids?I am not sure about my female as a pure sinaloan she has features of nelsoni also.

congrats on your pairing imho sinaloan and nelson are the SAME snake, but thats just me. good luck,,,,,,,,,,thomas davis
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Morphs... just like baseball cards BUT ALIVE, how cool is that???

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hybrid...no. man-made inter-grade...yes.

funny enough, many of the nelsoni first imported naturally had either sinaloae or arcifera influence.

things were just mussed with a lot more in the 90's when the amel gene popped up in doug moody's nelsoni line. this caused many who bought the offspring to breed to whatever looked closest to cash in on the amel $$$ craze.

while i have a trio of moody/llemke line nelsoni and a trio of pure sinaloae the rest of what i have in my collection are easily the result of greedy breeders. still, wonderful snakes though.

this is why i now refer to everything in my collection as west mexican milks.

Simply say what you did when you sell them, that's all.

I've been in the area where nelsoni and sinaloae ranges meet. I did see a road-killed milksnake there. Believe me, if I had that snake alive people would say it was some kind of hybrid. The wild snakes do not necessarily fit what we routinely see in the hobby. And you and I have no way to know the history of most of the nelsoni and sinaloae anyway.

If you say the babies are the result of you crossing your Sinaloan to an amel nelsons, that is the best you can do.
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Mark