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TX Senate OKs "Reptile Bill"

EricWI May 25, 2011 06:22 PM

The Senate passed the "reptile bill" today, which creates regulations for hunters who want to collect snakes and toads along Texas highways.

Lawmakers unexpectedly outlawed collecting reptiles and amphibians along roadsides years ago, said Sen. Carlos Uresti, D-San Antonio, sponsor of the bill. Since then, hotels and rural communities in his district have reported losing millions in tourism dollars, he said. “We don’t want to kill the snakes and the horny toads along the roadway, but we want to allow those individuals who love to hunt these reptiles and amphibians … to do that along the roadside.”

The bill requires hunters to purchase a stamp from the Texas Parks and Wildlife Department to legally collect snakes and toads along the highway. Registered hunters could only collect the animals by nonlethal means, and would be required to wear reflective clothing while walking on the side of a highway. Uresti added an amendment that forbids collectors from using "an artificial light" to spot snakes and toads.

Sen. Joan Huffman, R-Southside Place, voiced concern: “Are you saying now for the entire state of Texas that if a person wants to ... put a snake in a bag or a frog in a bag that they need to be licensed and regulated?”

Uresti answered yes, because without regulation the practice is illegal: “Right now, it’s illegal for anyone to walk along the highway and capture a snake or capture a horny toad.”

Uresti also reassured Sen. Juan "Chuy" Hinojosa, D-McAllen, who worried whether Texans would still be able to kill snakes in their backyards. “The specific point on this bill is along the highway,” he said.

After a few lighthearted jokes, the bill passed the Senate 25-6 and now moves back to the House for approval of an amendment added by Uresti.
www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/82nd-legislative-session/senate-oks-reptile-bill/

Replies (12)

venkeeper May 26, 2011 07:42 AM

What did we gain? With Uresti adding the "No use of artificial lights" amendment, we can't hunt at night! What did we win?

lbenton May 26, 2011 10:24 AM

There have been some mixed feelings on the changes introduced as this bill moved along. But nowhere does it say you can not use an artificial light. Instead it says no spotlight from a vehicle.

I suggest you take another look at the latest text of the bill.
Latest TXT from Senate Committee Report

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venkeeper May 26, 2011 10:58 AM

Hey Lance, I read it here :

www.texastribune.org%2Ftexas-legislature%2F82nd-legislative-session%2Fsenate-oks-reptile-bill%2F&h=e9ec3&refid=17

I did however speek with another person this morning that stated the same thing you did that the actual amendment states from a vehicle! The article above would lead a person to believe otherwise as I did! Thanks for the help in clearing it up!

VK

venkeeper May 26, 2011 11:06 AM

Sorry Here is the Corrected Link

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/82nd-legislative-session/senate-oks-reptile-bill/

jpenney May 26, 2011 03:09 PM

>>Sorry Here is the Corrected Link
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>>http://www.texastribune.org/texas-legislature/82nd-legislative-session/senate-oks-reptile-bill/

Not done yet boys...Gov. has to sign it. Everyone needs to start calling and emailing the Governors office yesterday in support of the bill. Tel your friends, relitives, people on the street HOUSE BILL 1788
Governors Contact info

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Snakes of Hudspeth County, Texas

TimCole May 26, 2011 07:28 PM

It doesn't stop you from walking the cut with lights.
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jpenney May 26, 2011 03:12 PM

>>There have been some mixed feelings on the changes introduced as this bill moved along. But nowhere does it say you can not use an artificial light. Instead it says no spotlight from a vehicle.
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>>I suggest you take another look at the latest text of the bill.
>>Latest TXT from Senate Committee Report
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Actually is does NOW say Artificial Light (from a vehicle). It was a last minute under the table push by TP&WL right before it went to the Senate for a vote.
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Snakes of Hudspeth County, Texas

swwit May 26, 2011 08:03 PM

Does that mean that it's illegal to collect a snake on the road that's been illuminated By the headlights?
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TimCole May 26, 2011 08:31 PM

Illegal until it gets off the pavement.

You can stand there and watch a truck roll over it but you are not allowed to save it from the truck!

I believe the intent was to exclude lighting in addition to the vehicles lights.
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jpenney May 26, 2011 08:51 PM

>>Does that mean that it's illegal to collect a snake on the road that's been illuminated By the headlights?
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We have to wait until the Wardens receive a "Legislative Update" when/if the bill gets signed. The legislative update will surely be followed with interpretations by their legal Dept. If it interpreted to include headlights, it doesn't matter if you wait until it crawls off the road or not if you spotted it with your headlights initially. Walking the cuts is OK for sure. While walking the cuts according to the text of the law and definitions, you can also find/hunt/collect them on the paved shoulder as defined by the Trans Code. The only gray area is is going to be if they are going to push the, "well you used your headlights to find it" bull. There is allot to be discussed and the details are best discussed off of a forum.
I sincerely hope that officials at TP&WL don't push the headlight thing. If they do, hard feelings are surely going to persist and the inevitable roadside back and forth will continue. This "us against them" is getting old.
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HCU
Snakes of Hudspeth County, Texas

Aaron May 27, 2011 11:01 PM

I hate the us against them mentality. I wish it was just if you had your license, obeyed the bag limits and weren't creating a hazard you'd be ok. But I enjoy walking the cuts, it works well for finding stuff and I will be happy with that if we can get it.
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stevenxowens792 May 28, 2011 03:52 PM

guys.. you worry too much. The "headlight" type of laws were defeated in California a very long time ago. Don't worry about it so much.

Just go out, be polite and have a good time.

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