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After my hypo female got back up to weighing more than she did when she went into hibernation (by rather a lot) I put her back in with a white sided male; this was like 3 weeks ago. Anyhow, she shed 3-5 days ago and laid sometime between midnight and 7 am...do you think it's more likely sperm retention or the second mating? 3 weeks from start to finish seems quick but hey, I'm new to breeding kings.

thank God cause I'm leaving for California for 5 days today too. I'm gonna try to get her a mouse or two before I get on the plan (in 5 hours).
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1.3 African House Snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
1 corn snake
4.3 Florida Kings
2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
1 Argentine boa
1 Texas Rat Snake
1 checkered garter snake

Could be either or.

What part of calif are you traveling to? Doing any snake hunting?
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Does anyone interested in hybrids have, or know where I can get, detailed information on cross breeding kings with corns?

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Bakersfield and Cambria. It's for my baby brother's wedding (where's the OH crap I feel old emoticon?).

We're all--my parents, my one surviving grandparent, her parents, her grandparents, her sister--staying in their house and no 4 members of the group get along. I plan to stay outside as much as possible But I doubt I'll get a chance to get real snake hunting.
In Houston tonight, Bakersfield tomorrow (stupid flight schedules suck) have the final tux fitting tomorrow, along with the practice dinner, then we drive to Cambria on Thursday, get situated (may go with the folks to an elephant seal spotting place), and the wedding is Friday. It is supposed to last 5-6 hours all told which I don't get; mine was about 1.5 all told, including reception.

Sleep off the hangover Saturday, fly back Sunday.
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We wouldn't have 6 and a half billion people if you had to be beautiful to get laid.
1.3 African House Snakes
3.2 reticulated pythons
1 corn snake
4.3 Florida Kings
2 speckled kings
1.2 ball pythons
1 Argentine boa
1 Texas Rat Snake
1 checkered garter snake

I have been wanting to do some experiments on this subject. I suspect that there is less retention then some believe. I was going to test this tyheory out this year, but the female gave me all duds. I was pairing a female Snow het for diffised, with a Fire male het for Anery. Then I wanted to mate that same female to a Sunkissed. The results would have been easy to determine, since the first breeding would have given me all Amels or snows, and the second mating would have given me all normal hets. If any amels or Snows hatched in the second clutch, then those would be from retained sperm.
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King Snakes! Who can make a better mouse trap?
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Wow- that would have been an interesting experiment. you'll have to try again. Sorry they were duds...Dave.

I don't know which it would be in your case but I can testify to sperm retention's occurance. A couple years ago I bred a pair of alterna and the female laid 9 infertile eggs. After the first breeding period I never had her in contact with any male, yet after laying the infertile clutch she went on to lay a second clutch that season. Three of those eggs hatched.

Also she was double het for hypo and anery. The male I had used was a hypo het anery. One of the babies was anery, one was normal and I forget what the third was but I think it was hypo.

This leads me to another question. I wonder if it could have been parthenogenesis? The timing makes me think that would be very unlikely because most if not all of the cases of parthenogenesis that I can remember hearing of took place after long periods of time with no exposure to males. So I wonder if the genetics could prove it wasn't parthenogenesis. In parthenogenesis could a het produce a visual?
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"So I wonder if the genetics could prove it wasn't parthenogenesis. In parthenogenesis could a het produce a visual?"

My understanding is that they could not. Emphasis on my understand.
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Thanks. I hadn't thought much about it, guess now I've got something to research.
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