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Comments wanted

nace Jun 01, 2011 07:30 PM

I would like to get some opinions from some other breeders on this litter. I bred a interesting male to a normal female last year to see if he was genetic. I produced 5 odd ones and the rest looked like these not your normal looking boas. They all have belly and side markers like the dad i bought him in 99. Also i don't think he's a Jungle Boa and this is not a cross litter like BCI x BCC.
Not saying this is a new morph until more breeding.
Comments Welcomed

Thanks,
Chris Nace

Replies (10)

Morgans Boas Jun 01, 2011 09:13 PM

I must be missing something . These are nice bright and colorful Boas - great looking . But they don't resemble anything that would suggest a morph - they have typical markings , nothing that resembles a Jungle , just nicely colored . I'm wondering what I should be noticing.
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LarM Jun 01, 2011 10:28 PM

I'm kind of at a loss as to what I'm suppose to be looking for/at.

Also it would be nice to see the father of the litter, also Mother
and several pictures of the babies all together.

First all the babies together in the goo.

Then all the babies together after first shed.

Then all the babies together at another time, perhaps more recently.

These two Boas I see are very nice light colored Boas with pretty
bright red tails, very nice Boas.

I do not see anything I would pick out as a Jungle type Boa.

Possibly the fact that they are so light colored might lead to
something, but once again to judge that I would have to see
all pictures I requested.

Then and only then could I make any determination.

Clear bright in focus pictures of all the babies in the Goo are
probably the single most important pictures to see.

. . . Lar M
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Kelly_Haller Jun 02, 2011 12:11 AM

I believe that many people forget the huge natural variation in color and pattern that is seen within the spectrum of what most would call "normal" boas, as opposed to some type of morph. You have a species that is found over an immense geographical range with thousands of localized populations that are producing hundreds of different color and pattern variations. Most of these are not morphs, but just naturally occurring variations within a species.

Kelly

Nace Jun 02, 2011 01:22 AM

Sorry for any of the confusion on the Jungle Boa part. I meant to say don't refer to these as Jungle Boas as so many people do with other Boas. I'm also not saying they are any kind of morph. I'm just showing some of the clutch that are high contrast for normal Boas. All i'm asking for is good or bad criticism it's just other peoples opinions.Some of the other babys do have something going on but until i prove or disprove them out i'm not going to put them out there.

Pics of Dad first two and Mom

Thanks to all that have posted already

LarM Jun 02, 2011 02:53 AM

Very pretty Boa with a strong connecting pattern.

I see see how some very interesting possibly special Boas might
come from that strong connecting pattern type.

The mother is a light pretty Boa with nice contrasting saddles as well.

Good luck with your project !

. . . Lar M
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DeHart Jun 02, 2011 07:08 AM

If you can't give years of corroborating data on multiple litters, you're not likely to get much encouragement on this forum (in my experience). And, in honesty, it will take that process to "prove" anything definitely, even though it looks like there may be a morph. I've been going through the same thing even though I've produced multiple litters, because of the genetic mix of the boas I started with in the beginning. If you email me directly (reptixotic@yahoo.com) I'll discuss further, if you like. Even if it turns out to be a dom/codom that looks like a very nice "normal" it can still be useful in combos....look at pastel albinos, or what Congos do in ball python combos.

ceniceros Jun 02, 2011 10:16 AM

I see nothing but typical common boas.
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daneby Jun 02, 2011 01:42 PM

Those are some very nice looking boas, better then typical normal boas. I bet as adults they'll look better then half the boa morphs do as adults. Breed them & I'm sure people looking for normal common boas will buy your babies before buying average looking normals.

Dan

Nace Jun 02, 2011 09:28 PM

I would like to say thanks to all who commented.

Also that im not new to this hobby nor this site i have produced multiple litters and i know that these are not any kind of Morph just nicely colored normals. Just wanted some comments on them because you rarely see nicely colored normals without crossing them with some kind of Morph.

Thanks,
Chris

DeHart Jun 03, 2011 07:00 AM

I'm seeing a reduction in the shading much like with "pastels"...although falling "within the normal range" or possibly "bred for" looks. I'll bet this would make for a very nice line of albinos, or anery', etc.

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