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I'm Wondering..

drapert Jun 05, 2011 05:29 PM

Long ago, I had some Honduran Milksnakes. Both escaped, and have never been found, dead or alive, and there has been no deadly stinks in the house. Never found them, never seen them again.

At the end of last summer, what appeared to me to be a California Kingsnake was found in our barn. My step son chased it out of the big barn and it disappeared into the grass, but I have a hunch it might have headed back into the barn at some point unless it found itself an underground cavern.

However, I don't live in California, I live in Mid-Michigan. The banding was pretty equal, black vs white all the way around this snake, rather than being mostly black.

There have been Eastern Kingsnakes on the property, and I know not to kill them, step son, however, is really afraid of snakes (so is husband, so I have to keep my boa in a cage until he's out of the house.)

My question is could the escaped Honduran have lost it's color and evolved into something that resembles a Cali. King? I know the two are somewhat related. I don't really know how to approach the query correctly, and don't want to appear completely ignorant about snakes in general (although I fear I might have). I think it might have been a female (she was trying to slither up my step-son's pantleg to get warm)--HA! But I have no proof. My hope is that she found a safe place and that I'll see her again this spring before my husband see's her and she ends up toast.

Replies (3)

a153fish Jun 05, 2011 06:08 PM

I would say it's probably an Eastern king with wide bands. Or at least wider then your used to seeing in that area. If there are in fact Eastern Kings up there? I don't they they extend that far. I wonder if it might be dark Eastern Milks?
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DMong Jun 05, 2011 06:13 PM

It's tough to say with absolute certainty, but it is EXTREMELY doubtful A sub-tropical Honduran milksnake could endure anything even CLOSE to those harsh witers there for any length of time. And no, they definitely cannot morph into a different looking black and white phenotype either. It's hard to imagine a Cal. king there, but an escapee Cal. king could would be much more likely to survive there than a Honduran milksnake surviving there would be, since parts of California and Utah, etc...can have brutal winters in certain areas.

There are no Eastern kingsnakes(L.g.getula) in Michigan, but there are Eastern milksnakes(L.t.triangulum), which is probably what you meant.

cheers, ~Doug
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mikefedzen Jun 05, 2011 08:00 PM

Possibly a water snake as well... the black and white banding makes sense if the snake was moving pretty quick through the grass.
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