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:Let's list the BRB morphs here....

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:13 PM

Morphs we know are proven...

Probable Morphs we think are genetic and in the proving stages...

Traits we believe are line bred or polygenic.....

To help keep this straight, post a reply to the original with one and only one morph/trait/project, who has it, what it is etc. Then further replies can be a discussion on that morph.
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

Replies (43)

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:15 PM

Mike Lockwood's Hypo line, also known as EBV Hypo. Fully proven recessive trait.


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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

RainbowsByDesign Jun 07, 2011 06:23 PM

I believe that the Bell line hypo in a proven recessive trait. However it is my understanding that this bloodline was insufficiently out crossed in order to suppress the regurgitation problem common with the “hypo gene.” I think that this bloodline has been nearly wiped out. There are a few animals remaining in Bryan Hummel’s collect as well as my own (via Bryan). The Bell line is distinct from the EBV line in that they are not compatible. There are double hets in our collection however the insufficient out crossing has proven problematic.

I am having problems with the photo bucket and uploading photos. So I can’t post a picture, however anyone wanting to see it can look on my website.

IkeLightner Jun 16, 2011 03:00 PM

come on!!!! Lets see lots more hypo pictures than this everyone!!!!! I know there are plenty of them out there and they are all AMAZING!!! Lets see some hypo BRBS!!!!!
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Ike Lightner

2.3 BRB Breeders (Dugo, Sultan, Roxy, Brazita, & Lucille)
1.0 BRB striped holdback (Nando) from Roxxy's litter of 25 on 8/23/10
1.2 100% het hypo BRB (Diego, Rasheena & Liddia)
0.1 Hypo BRB (Ireena)
Total collection of breeders and future breeders
4.6 Brazilian Rainbow Boas - Epicrates Cenchria Cenchria

IkeLightner Jun 16, 2011 03:51 PM

Well I only have 1 hypo so that is all I can share here. Check her out, she is amazing!!!

I have always heard so many people say that they are WAY better looking in person than in pictures but I always brushed this off and didn't think much of it.....boy was I dumb. When I finally saw this little girl for the first time I was blown away. Hypo BRBS are absolutely unreal in person, they literally glow!!!

Her name is "Ireena" and she was born September 2010.



first 3 pics were without flash, this last one is with a flash
I would say her colors are probably somewhere in between both pictures, tough to photograph!!!!

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Ike Lightner

2.3 BRB Breeders (Dugo, Sultan, Roxy, Brazita, & Lucille)
1.0 BRB striped holdback (Nando) from Roxxy's litter of 25 on 8/23/10
1.2 100% het hypo BRB (Diego, Rasheena & Liddia)
0.1 Hypo BRB (Ireena)
Total collection of breeders and future breeders
4.6 Brazilian Rainbow Boas - Epicrates Cenchria Cenchria

RainbowsByDesign Jun 17, 2011 10:18 AM
IkeLightner Jun 17, 2011 10:37 AM

VERY nice, thanks for sharing!!! How long have you had them and when were they born??

What sized meals are you currently feeding them and have you experienced any issues with regurg????
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Ike Lightner

2.3 BRB Breeders (Dugo, Sultan, Roxy, Brazita, & Lucille)
1.0 BRB striped holdback (Nando) from Roxxy's litter of 25 on 8/23/10
1.2 100% het hypo BRB (Diego, Rasheena & Liddia)
0.1 Hypo BRB (Ireena)
Total collection of breeders and future breeders
4.6 Brazilian Rainbow Boas - Epicrates Cenchria Cenchria

RainbowsByDesign Jun 17, 2011 01:51 PM

Ike,

I have only had them for a year now. But the female I was a year older then the male when I got them. I don't remember the exacted DOB off the top of my head but I have that info on there cages back at home (I am at work now).

I haven't had any problems with the female but the male did regurg on me when I first got him. I don't really fed them big meals and I only feed hypos once a week. Pebbles is eating small rat and Bam-Bam is eating the next size down. My female DB hypo only gets a small rat a week and she is about 4.5 feet long now

I have quit a few het hypos that feed about twice as much and they seem to be doing well and have never regurged on me.

John

johnnic Jun 17, 2011 02:47 PM

here are three of my many hypo rainbows. without the flash they are much more orange. i have a cheapy auto focus dig and for some odd reason it can't auto focus without the flash. go figure. ebv line. so it wasn't just me. even though i've been breeding brbs for ten years i've noticed a few of these newborn hypo brbs i produce every year were regurgitating on me. once they get a little size on them, they're fine. the hets/my anerys never have this issue. i'm glad that the hypo/het hypo brbs are within affordable price range now (depending on what the definition of affordable is i guess). it'll be nice to see the breeders start to selectively intensify the red/orange on the hypos.

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:19 PM

Brian Sharps line of Anery. Fully proven recessive genetic morph.

as a baby...

as an adult...

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:26 PM

Don't know if Susquehanna line is correct, Ted has some stripe animals he acquired a while back that produce aberrant babies. Supposedly proven but I do not have details....



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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:30 PM

Unproven but being worked. I have the original male Fluffy. Started out life as a normal looking baby. On or near reaching sexual maturity he went through a color changes and looked like....

Then a couple years ago he went through another color morph and now is mostly white...

There have been others pop up in collections and I have produced three litters of offspring that are being raised up for breeding trials. Fingers crossed!!!
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:34 PM

Unproven - acquired this girl as a wild bred, captive born baby along with her mother and siblings. She has wild side striping - conjoining of the side medallions. Raising her up but she was a finicky eater and is growing slowly....


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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:42 PM

Unproven but appears genetic. Had a litter in 2010 from two siblings, one showing side striping and the other no striping but bold crescents. Half the litter showed significant lateral striping, half did not. Exactly what would be expected from a recessive visual x het pairing. Of course needs breeding trials to prove it out. Looks very much like line #1 but clearly not directly related.

Brandi...

Bambi...

Lex...

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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:43 PM

Unproven but I've heard they are producing "hets".

Sorry, I don't have any pics....
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

waspinator421 Jun 08, 2011 12:25 AM

Here is a borrowed picture. I can't wait to get my hands on this gene!


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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

ikelightner Jun 08, 2011 04:33 PM

Hey Aubrey, thanks for posting this pic, while I do understand wanting to get this gene in your collection, I'm disappointed that this is such a coveted morph, I'd take a nice high orange or red " normal" any day of the week over that IMHO
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Ike Lightner

2.3 BRB Breeders(Dugo, Sultan, Roxxy, Brazita, & Lucille)
1.0 BRB striped holdback of my 8/23/10 litter of 25 (Nando)
1.1 100% het hypo BRB (Diego & Rasheena)
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0.2 BRBs still in CALI, about to join me in Missouri!!!! 1 hypo/1 het hypo (Ireena & Liddia)

curaniel Jun 09, 2011 09:28 PM

Wow, look at those eyes! Like burning coals!
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~Cynthia

"And in the spring, I shed my skin and it blows away with the changing wind..."

johnnic Jun 11, 2011 01:11 AM

gosh... ian made it sound like it was an orange albino. maybe the flash washed out the orange. gonna have a talk with him tomorrow at hamburg!

waspinator421 Jun 11, 2011 10:34 AM

Yes, it is actually more orange. I have another pic that shows it better bit its only a tail shot.
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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:48 PM

Believed to be a polygenic line bred trait where the side medallions are filled in with crescent color....


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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:52 PM

Also looks like a line bred trait, possibly polygenic. Where the crescent color reaches around the whole side medallion and makes a complete circle....


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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 04:54 PM

Looks like a line bred trait where there is little to no crescent color at all.


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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

RainbowsByDesign Jun 07, 2011 06:27 PM

This seems to be different from the other eclipsed phased animals out there. Make note that there is know blushing in the spots on the side. I believe that this lineage is a polygenic trait.
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RainbowsByDesign Jun 07, 2011 06:29 PM

I will figure this photo thing out eventually!!!
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rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 05:00 PM

Thought to be line bred or polygenic. Where the side medallions are speck;led with crescent color....


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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Jun 07, 2011 05:06 PM

I know several of us are working on various versions of this. Probably line bred where the dorsal patterns are joined into zigzag patterns down the spine...



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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

waspinator421 Jun 07, 2011 06:30 PM

Relatively new project for me. Working on completely reducing the saddles to create a "Bareback" BRB. Here is the closest baby I've produced to this trait so far:



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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

RainbowsByDesign Jun 07, 2011 07:06 PM

Aubrey,

This is a very cool project I am very much looking forward to where this goes.

PS, my little guys are doing great, eating like piggies and growing fast!!! They quickly became one of my favs!!!

John

waspinator421 Jun 08, 2011 12:29 AM

Glad to hear that your pair is doing so well! I can't wait to see what these babies produce in a few years. Please post pics as they grow!
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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

RainbowsByDesign Jun 08, 2011 02:10 PM

... Can we think of a better name than "Bareback"...?

waspinator421 Jun 08, 2011 03:50 PM

LOL, what you don't like it? We couldn't think of another descriptive name that wasn't clumsy to say.
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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

rainbowsrus Jun 08, 2011 03:54 PM

>>LOL, what you don't like it? We couldn't think of another descriptive name that wasn't clumsy to say.
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>>Aubrey Ross
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>>www.SlipstreamSerpents.com
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

waspinator421 Jun 08, 2011 04:19 PM

But it isn't completely patternless. What would we then call the BRB that is produced one day with no crescents either?
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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

rainbowsrus Jun 08, 2011 04:45 PM

spineless jellyfish?

Baldy...

some version of abby?
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

rainbowsrus Jun 08, 2011 04:50 PM

>>spineless jellyfish?
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>>Baldy...
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>>some version of abby?
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>>Thanks,
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>>Dave Colling
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>>www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com
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>>0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
>>0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)
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>>LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
>>42.61 BRB
>>27.40 BCI
>>And those are only the breeders
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>>lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats
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Thanks,

Dave Colling

www.rainbows-r-us-reptiles.com

0.1 Wife (WC and still very fiesty)
0.2 kids (CBB, a big part of our selective breeding program)

LOL, to many snakes to list, last count (02/01/2010):
42.61 BRB
27.40 BCI
And those are only the breeders

lots.lots.lots feeder mice and rats

waspinator421 Jun 09, 2011 12:44 AM

Sometimes I really hate it when innocent words acquire alternate meanings that aren't so family friendly. I really like the term Bareback... it describes the trait perfectly. Unfortunately it seems everyone will only think of the slang term.
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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

RainbowsByDesign Jun 09, 2011 08:48 AM

Aubrey,

You started this awesome trait, you can name it whatever you'd like... Bareback it is

John

waspinator421 Jun 09, 2011 09:37 AM

Eh, if it isn't going to be a name people like, people won't use it. We could also call it "topless". Still descriptive & less vulgar for those who's mind is in the gutter, lol!!!
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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

RainbowsByDesign Jun 09, 2011 11:14 AM

I like "topless" better, but I will call it whatever you'd like. I just don't want to feel like I would have to apologize to someone after describing the trait.

waspinator421 Jun 09, 2011 01:09 PM

Ok, Topless it is.
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Aubrey Ross


www.SlipstreamSerpents.com

SRX Jun 13, 2011 02:39 PM

johnnic Jun 11, 2011 12:43 AM

Babies from 2008 and pregnant female anery.

IkeLightner Jun 17, 2011 08:22 AM

thanks Cliff,

Don't you have some hypos in your collection??
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Ike Lightner

2.3 BRB Breeders (Dugo, Sultan, Roxy, Brazita, & Lucille)
1.0 BRB striped holdback (Nando) from Roxxy's litter of 25 on 8/23/10
1.2 100% het hypo BRB (Diego, Rasheena & Liddia)
0.1 Hypo BRB (Ireena)
Total collection of breeders and future breeders
4.6 Brazilian Rainbow Boas - Epicrates Cenchria Cenchria

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