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Mojave x Normal = 0.4 Mojave, 1.3 Normal


Pastel Het Red x Pastel = 1.0 SP Het Red, 1.0 Pastel Het Red, 1.0 Super Pastel, 1.0 Pastel and 1.1 Het Red Axanthic




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Don Antiel
www.specialtyreptile.com

Congrats! I think you have a normal in that pastel het red clutch...
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Best regards,
AlanColesReptiles

Thank you Alan. I agree, the one on the right looks normal.

This is one thing that is still a bit confusing to me about the Het Red Gene. I have seen a few that look like my original female but have also seen other posting Het Reds that look normal.

Now, my original female has 2 parallel lines running the length of her belly (the center, not the edges). By adding the pastel, the lines spread out to the edges of the belly (same for 3 total Pastel Het Reds I have hatched).

So far, this is my second clutch in 2 years of Het Reds, all the babies I assume are Het Reds have these lines on there bellies. The Pastel and SP do not have the lines on the belly.

Any thoughts, comments and knowledge are appreciated! I assumed this may have been a marker that people have been keeping on the DL?
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Don Antiel
www.specialtyreptile.com

-Don

I have been offered het reds in the past on trade. Since I am not an expert on this mutation I have not acquired any. The individuals offered were "suspicious".

I agree that certain individuals of this mutation have been posted and resemble normals. This is a big concern. Some of these may, in fact be normal but because they have a "black back" they are marketed as het reds...??

I do, however have some mutations that can be hard to distinguish from normal (Het SS, Specials etc...). These do have "markers" that are more obvious once you learn them.

I am sorry I can not give a definite answer on "het red" markers. I made my comment based mostly on coloration. You can see a definite difference between the one in question and the Het Red next to it.
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Best regards,
AlanColesReptiles

one of the problems with het reds is they are so variable. also if the pairing was a normal x het red the babies are not as extreme as babies from red axanthic x normal. i have a female i kept back from last year that i am not sure of either. she has some of the markers but not all of them. being a female i will hold her back and breed her to another het red or red or pastel het red to prove her out.
i would hazard a guess ( not the best pic of it) that after it sheds it will be more apparent that it is a het red. i see hints of flames and some reddish spots on the back and the squigly pattern. they are hard to tell some times though.
adam jeffery
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" a.k.a. farfrumugen "
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

Agreed, you can see some of the signs. The same thing happned last year which is why I held her back. The more they grow the more they seem to show the markers.

Even with the variablity, I really love this gene's combo capabilities.
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Don Antiel
www.specialtyreptile.com