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Since were on various "disclosure topics" who here accurately discloses all the genetic possibilities when they sell a Anaconda.
It is a known fact that all anaconda's are possible het pink if not hypo as well and some anaconda's have started popping up with the gene. This is how the 1st Pink Panthers were created. So is it up to the breeder to label correctly and let everyone know or like a few pointed out here keep quite possibly ruining projects or causing confusion etc..

So should we from now on label all conda's that way or is it just a given that the buyer should already know??

I know I have and haven't done it so I am as guilty as anyone.
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Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com

Quote from Nearhoofm
"Regardless who the seller is it is the sellers responsibility to state the genetics period. There is no excuse for not doing so with maybe the exception of the seller having an animal that he or she does not know the true genetics themselves.Like I said it is the responsibility, whether its the person you are talking about,me or anyone else in this forum, to disclose all genetics that they are aware of period."

Your add on KS right now has no mention of conda's being possible het pink, your ad also says SOLD..

did you inform the buyer of this genetic possibility??

Listen I am only trying to prove a point that sometimes this happens and were all human.
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Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com

For your information sir I did!

You chose to list the 50% poss het albino...so why leave out the rest??
Do you think we should put it in the add and accurately represent what were selling?? And if not why not,I mean really it only takes a second to write that.
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Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com

Alright pretty much same statement here as what I said to nearhoofm, I went to your website and nowhere does it mention poss het pinks on your conda's ..doesn't on my site either.
Should we change that fact?
The conda's you sold , were the buyers told? and if not if they had done there research asked questions..could this situation been avoided?
Should we go back and tell all our buyers just in case??
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Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com

As I said in my original thread. The condas are an excusable example, due to the fact that it has been publicly announced many times. You just said it yourself. "It is a known fact that all anaconda's are possible het pink if not hypo as well and some anaconda's have started popping up with the gene." I don't see why we would need to disclose a "known fact". Seems kind of redundant to me. If someone sells their condas as poss double het for ppa and hypo, they are more than likely just using that info as a sales gimmick and hyping their standard product. Unless they produced these animals with their own stock which carry the ppa and hypo genes, or had previously proved their conda to carry those genes.

My $.02

Good topic by the way.
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Ultimate Hognose

The snake I sold Ian was publicly announced here as well lol.. so Ian should of known by that same reasoning.

But not everyone can read English or comes here's in fact you'd be surprised how many people didnt know hypo and PP are from related lines..even amoung breeders or that all anacondas are possible het pink. Some breeders may not do there research. Soem may not have even have computers..
Do you think it should be stated in the ads beforehand??
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Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com

Lucky some of you guys aren't into corns. I'm not sure a deli lid has enough room for all those possible hets.... lol

Since it's so important I guess your all labeling all those normal anaconda sibs as poss het PP too, right?

Justin,
You wrote this...

"The snake I sold Ian was publicly announced here as well lol.. so Ian should of known by that same reasoning."

Dude,
there is a huge difference when a breeder anounces a new co=dom morph and when you post a photo of your snakes... There od a huge difference between an actual morph and what you call red...

You were better off just keeping yourself quiet but you seem to like shotting yourself in the foot...

Edited on June 12, 2011 at 12:48:42 by PHFaust.

How are those leucistics??? LOL

Your coming off a little jealous there Gregg.

please dont use childish tactics here.
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Justin Mitcham
ExtremeHogs.com

Yes, I sure did. Every last conda sib I have sold was advertised as such. When I replied to emails, I again mentioned the relation to the condas and the chance that they are poss het ppa.
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Ultimate Hognose