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what ever happened to the cornsnake some guy found in the wild that had different color spots all over it? I think it had some blue yellow and red in it?

Blue pigment??????

Are you talking about the "ruby-freckled" corn from many years ago that Kathy Love was involved with?.

I just can't imagine a corn with any real blue involved.

........well, without being photo-shopped that is..LOL!

This is the only corn I have ever seen with any blue coloration.

If it were only real, it would be worth countless THOUSANDS!

Could you see a "Tessera" with this going on??..LOL!

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Here is a specimen that I have known about was captured years ago.

But looking at the anatomy characteristics, it looks much more like a ratsnake(obsoletus) than it does a cornsnake.

Still EXTREMELY unique looking though either way though!

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

that looks more like what I remember. someone found it in the wild and blah blah. any idea what happened to it?

>>that looks more like what I remember. someone found it in the wild and blah blah. any idea what happened to it?

Last I read ther guy was trying to sell it for mucho dinero! Don't know what happenned from there? I hope somebody breeds the darn thing and makes more, lol!
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Yeah guys, the last I recall was the guy asking the HUGE coins, then that was the last I ever heard. It's very possible whoever DOES have it now is just keeping it very low-key until they can unleash a torrent of offspring to the public from it.

Would be nice to really be certain on what kind it is though. From what I can recall, there was a big thread on it on another forum, and the Love's concluded that it was a genuine cornsnake from closely examining it's meristic features and scalation.

Certainly is one awesome animal!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

here it is. I will have to refresh my memory about this too.
pied/calico corn

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

The only 'calico' mentioned by the Loves was a snake that developed 'blisters' that resulted in white patches. The general consensus seems to be that this snake is most likely a black rat. The fact that the owner would not allow close examination is sketchy at best, and seems to hint that he himself knew it was not actually a corn.

That is what I see when I look at it as well. Looks to be a Texas or Black Rat, both of which can display reds in their natural color schemes.

The 10's of thousands of dollars Wayne mentioned seem totally bogus to me as well in an effort to trump up the novelty and future worth of any possible offspring.

I read ever single post on it, as well as about 15 good pics, and it is a male with an obvious devided anal plate.

Killer animal though no matter how you slice it, but I definitely also think it is a Texas or Black Rat.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

The cat is out of the bag.

http://www.cornsnakes.net
Link

Thought this would take you directly to the site. The URL is correct. Type in cornsnakes.net

Yes, very cool!!

Glad we had the nice chat this evening Jim!....as always..

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

Not sure where you heard that he wouldn't allow close inspection. He brought it to a show in Columbia for all to see. Jeff Mohr, Myself, Jim Godfrey, Jeff Gaelwood (just to name a few) all held it and looked it over. Not to mention, Bill Love took numerous photos of the snake and demeed it a corn in his educated opinion.

dc

>>Not sure where you heard that he wouldn't allow close inspection. He brought it to a show in Columbia for all to see. Jeff Mohr, Myself, Jim Godfrey, Jeff Gaelwood (just to name a few) all held it and looked it over. Not to mention, Bill Love took numerous photos of the snake and demeed it a corn in his educated opinion.
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>>dc

actually it was Jeff Mohr who said it. on the last page of the discussion in 2010, Jeff stated that he saw it for a second on Saturday but was supposed to inspect it closer on Sunday but it wasn't brought to the show on Sunday. he also made some comment about whoever had it at the show not really wanting to be cooperative..and about drawing your own conclusions....
Just reading that whole thread reminded me of why I quit frequenting that forum...people jump in blasting this or blasting that without full knowledge of the topic and too many damn "experts"..everyone "knows" everything...people in the hobby for two weeks trying to tell people with many more years experience "the right way" based on something they read posted by someone who has been in the hobby for three weeks.
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Corn snakes and rat snakes...No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
(Draybar)

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read Don's page about the palmeto corn...
it will be cool if they have some pop out this season!!!
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Corn snakes and rat snakes...No one can have just one.
"Resistance is futile"
Jimmy Johnson
Draybar's snakes

"too many damn "experts"..everyone "knows" everything...people in the hobby for two weeks trying to tell people with many more years experience "the right way" based on something they read posted by someone who has been in the hobby for three weeks"

LOL!!,....yep!,...for sure Jimmy!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

I agree, many people who have read a book that is 9 years old and been reading a few care sheets and then suddenly they are experts. To much annonimity. That is why I do not post on any forum very often any more. The other pet peeve is very few people will actually post against someone when they see in correct info.

Jimmy, I have read the page and agree, hopefully there will be some visuals this season. I hope the Palmetto on Don's page is the most extreme version and others have more natural coloration mixed in with the white.

dc

I agree Daryl, a bit more color would be awesome for sure!

But hey, it is pretty darn awesome as is..LOL!

I'm sure you, Jim, Don, and a few others couldn't STAND keeping this Palmetto under your hats for so darn long..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

The pics I've seen from Don lead me to strongly believe it's a corn. One thing I've noticed is that the snake has a row of colored scales behind it's left eye that appear in many of the original pictures and make the eye LOOK larger than it is....and more ratsnake-like.

Either way, we'll see what pops up very soon!
Palmetto Corn on SMR site

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--Drew

Drew, That's funny you noticed this too, because I was talking to Don's good friend, Jim Godfrey about that very thing, and the markings around the eye on a solid white snake would tend to give the "illusion" that the eye is larger than it actually is. This would be similar to the way white and black clothing changing the perception of peoples weight and size, as well as the way longitudinal and horizontal stripes would.

Good eye!(pun intended)..LOL!

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"