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I'm getting my first pair of Brooks in the next week or so. Here is a pic of the female. Don't have a pic of the male yet. From what I've read about Brooks they tend to be good eaters and have good temperaments. I found conflicting info. Some sites said they are a color variation of Florida Kings, where other sites said they are a separate subspecies of Florida Kings. Curious what the prevailing opinion is here with people who work with them. I think this girl is pretty and can't wait till she gets here

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Ball Pythons
1.1 Normals het Caramel (Edward & Bella)
0.1 Normal 66% ph Caramel (Rosalie)
0.1 Caramel (Bellatrix)
1.0 Honey Bee (Aragog)
0.1 Hypo Pastel (Nagini)
0.1 Spider 66% ph Hypo(Nymphadora)
1.1 Mojaves (Lucius & Renesme)
1.1 Pastel Lessers (Jacob & Narcissa)
0.1 Pinstripe (Arwen)
1.0 Pewter (Salazar)
0.1 Bumble Bee (Alice)
0.1 Lemonblast (Luna)
1.0 Bell Pastel (Jasper)
0.1 African Dinker (Esme)
0.1 Normal (Madame Olympe Maxime)
0.1 Het Pied
1.1 Pastel "Dinker" Babies (Snape & Xiomara)

Corns
1.1 Normals het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo (Romeo & Juliet)
1.0 Blizzard het Diffused (Tumnus)
1.0 Blizzard poss het Anery, Hypo, Diffused (Cotton)
0.1 Anery Lavender het Amel (Lucy)
0.1 Plasma poss het Hypo (Victoria)
1.0 Plasma poss het Albino
1.0 Hypo Plasma
0.1 Opal (Jewel)
0.1 Amel Motley (Ginny)
0.1 Diffused poss het Anery
0.1 Lavender Motley poss het diffused
1.0 Lavender Pinstripe Motley het Amel
1.0 Charcoal Ghost poss het Anery, Albino, Diffused
0.1 Fire poss het Anery, Charcoal, Hypo (LeeLoo)
0.1 Normal het Albino, Lavender, Anery, Charcoal, poss het Diffused
1.0 Albino het Lavender, Anery, Charcoal, poss het Diffused
1.1 Sunkissed poss het Plasma (Arthur & Molly)

Thayeri Kings
0.1 Leonis (Sidney)
1.0 MSP

"brooksi" has been done away with in nomenclature. They are all considered to be floridana now.

But hobbiests (rather florida king aficiandos), still refer to the south florida locales as brooksi. Just because the relic parentage populations from that area make them more interesting than the northern part of Florida which intergrade with the eastern kings to the north.

yet in the classifieds and the open market the term "Brooks king" is used for any Florida king as a marketing term. Either just because it sounds better .., or they just don't know any better. But it does not mean they are from south florida unless the breeder/seller has this information and points out the county they are from.
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Very nice Lyn!

Two specimens were originally known to be found in 1892 and 1895. In 1919 Frank Blanchard described and named these kingsnakes "L.g.floridana". One month later, Thomas Barbour renamed these snakes "Lampropeltis g. brooksi" from a light colored specimen found southwest of Florida City in what is now Everglades National Park. Later in 1958 the name was regected and simply considered a color variant of floridana.

Since that time, there have been many lighter yellow specimens captured in more traditional darker floridana areas in the state, and also darker phenotypes where many lighter specimens are also found, which only reinforces the suggestion that they are merely lighter colored variants that can be found in many other areas of the state other than just southern Florida as once originally thought. Through the years though, the name "brooksi" has still stuck very well when referring to the lighter, yellower races of these snakes. The names are basically synonymous with each other, often being used interchangeably, but Most people in the know usually only refer to the lighter, and/or yellower types as Brooks kings, but todays marketing has changed this pretty drematically and some people will still call any type of Florida king A Brooks king. I personally like to reserve the term "brooksi" for the lighter, and/or yellower classic types, and the darker phenotypes that are typically found in the cane fields of Okeechobee, etc...as Florida kings.

In short, all Florida kingsnakes are not really considered "brooksi", but all brooksi ARE indeed considered Florida kings (L.g.floridana)..LOL! ..

~Doug
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They're awesome snakes. I have 4 other snakes and my brooksi is the only one that feels like a "pet snake". I think it's because whenever i open up his tub, he perks his head up and looks at me like "is it feeding time?". It's that type of reaction that puts the spunk in his personality and it differentiates him from my other snakes. I like how simplistic he is. He only has one thing on his mind and as long as that need is met, he's happy and will go along for the ride. My other snakes aren't as enthusiastic and spunky when it comes to food. They would rather hide and sleep and it makes me feel like i'm bothering them. Albeit that most snakes would rather be left alone and not bothered, but you get the idea.

So yeah, they have a voracious appetite. I feed mine in a separate tub and he's not the type to wait for me to lower the mouse in. He'll reach up with half of his body, so i have to be careful during feeding time, but other than that, he's very tame and predictable.

Good luck with yours. He looks really nice.

Wow, yours is gorgeous! Is that a normal one or is it a special morph? I have several snakes that don't wait on their mice/rats. They come launching out at meal time. Sounds like these guys will be same

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Slytherin Serpents

Have you been hugged by your snake today?

Ball Pythons
1.1 Normals het Caramel (Edward & Bella)
0.1 Normal 66% ph Caramel (Rosalie)
0.1 Caramel (Bellatrix)
1.0 Honey Bee (Aragog)
0.1 Hypo Pastel (Nagini)
0.1 Spider 66% ph Hypo(Nymphadora)
1.1 Mojaves (Lucius & Renesme)
1.1 Pastel Lessers (Jacob & Narcissa)
0.1 Pinstripe (Arwen)
1.0 Pewter (Salazar)
0.1 Bumble Bee (Alice)
0.1 Lemonblast (Luna)
1.0 Bell Pastel (Jasper)
0.1 African Dinker (Esme)
0.1 Normal (Madame Olympe Maxime)
0.1 Het Pied
1.1 Pastel "Dinker" Babies (Snape & Xiomara)

Corns
1.1 Normals het Amel, Anery, Charcoal, Diffused, Hypo (Romeo & Juliet)
1.0 Blizzard het Diffused (Tumnus)
1.0 Blizzard poss het Anery, Hypo, Diffused (Cotton)
0.1 Anery Lavender het Amel (Lucy)
0.1 Plasma poss het Hypo (Victoria)
1.0 Plasma poss het Albino
1.0 Hypo Plasma
0.1 Opal (Jewel)
0.1 Amel Motley (Ginny)
0.1 Diffused poss het Anery
0.1 Lavender Motley poss het diffused
1.0 Lavender Pinstripe Motley het Amel
1.0 Charcoal Ghost poss het Anery, Albino, Diffused
0.1 Fire poss het Anery, Charcoal, Hypo (LeeLoo)
0.1 Normal het Albino, Lavender, Anery, Charcoal, poss het Diffused
1.0 Albino het Lavender, Anery, Charcoal, poss het Diffused
1.1 Sunkissed poss het Plasma (Arthur & Molly)

Thayeri Kings
0.1 Leonis (Sidney)
1.0 MSP

He's a red hypo, but most tend to lighten or yellow out over time. Mine has already yellowed around the side and belly, so i guess he'll either be all yellow or a mix of orange and yellow.

According to Rainer, red hypos with a solid red head will retain their redness as adults. Red hypos with white heads will lose their color. As you can see in the attached pic, mine had white in it, so i think he'll turn orange/yellow. Man, can't believe how little he was 7 months ago when i got him. He's now 3.5 feet and 420 grams.

I used to post under slitheringdead, but i changed my username and email address. You can check out my iherp page for progression pics. Username is modlane.

According to Rainer, red hypos with a solid red head will retain their redness as adults

Well that is not exactly accurete. The hypos with red heads retain MORE of the red into adulthood than ones without color on their heads. Even if the hypo is very red a sa baby. The ones with a lot of red on their heads turn out better .

But there is a new line of red hypo brooks from Tom Agusta where the red really pops as an adult. But they are pricey at around $250-$300.
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The hypos with red heads retain MORE of the red into adulthood than ones without color on their heads.

Yeah, that's what i was thinking, but i typed it out incorrectly. Good thing you noticed and clarified it!

Yeah, that's what i was thinking, but i typed it out incorrectly. Good thing you noticed and clarified it!

Yeah lately some forum postrs have been wanting to argue about any small detail. i thought i better make a clarification before somebody says it is an absolute..

Nothing to do with you...and I really was not meaning to correct you. Just posted so the nitpickers won't start up..
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If ever there was a kingsnake that has the temperament of a tame boa constrictor, it is a Florida kingsnake. They can be so calm and easy to handle (as adults) that they almost seem like a companion animal.

They eat and poop alot however, especially when young.
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Mark