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hi all,just want to share pics of my albinos pairing.You can see the difference in colors.Males white is perfect.Do you think that female carries also hypo gene?

Awesome stuff, funny stuff my pair looks exactly the same, exactly. Uniform pattern and banding and my male has stark white bands and my female has that yellow tinge. Sad thing for me is they are younger. I will try to get photos up later.

I don't know if the off white/yellow banding was ever proven to be a good marker for a hybino. I think the more experienced guys say the only way to know for sure is to pair her with a hypo or ghost.

That's right. The yellow pigment(erythrin) that develops later on as they mature has absolutely nothing to do with them carrying the hypo gene(or not). There is absolutely NO WAY to tell if an individual is a carrier of, or is also displaying hypomelanism at the same along with amelanism(hybino).

The yellow pigment is only due to the other underlying pigment(s) that remain once the black pigment(melanin) is stripped away because of the amel gene. Some can also tend to get much yellower as they mature due to the individual snakes(or bloodlines) predisposition to store carotenoids within their pigment cells from the diet they consume. This is very similar to how Flamingo's and other animals can intensify with their colors depending on the diet intake, and how much is taken in.

The bottom line is hybinos can have a yellowish cast like many amels can, or be pure white where the dark rings would normally be. The ONLY way to know what they actually are genotypically is to know with certaintly what the genetics of BOTH parents are, and see what combinations they produce, or with an unknown albino phenotype do test breeding with a hypo or ghost. Then if all hypos are produced,.....bingo!, the amel in question is actually a double homozygous hybino. It's really just that simple.

This just happens to be a 100% known hybino that is 100% het anery from a breeding Rusty Green did last year, and I now own. The snake is quite a bit bigger though as this photo was taken several months ago.

~Doug

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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

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Thanks for answers I will try to breed her with my ghost male next year and I will see whats in her ha ha.

"The yellow pigment(erythrin) that develops later on as they mature"

I actually meant to say "xanthine" (yellow pigment) NOT erythrin. Erythrin is red pigmentation.

~Doug
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"a snake in the grass is a GOOD thing"

serpentinespecialties.webs.com

She is only a yearling.

I am not a photographer and I would need a better camera I can't capture her off white yellowing band color especially on paper towel. Whenever I post a picture on KS it comes shows up low resolution and grainy I don't know what I am doing wrong.

I really like your pairing anyway and whish you the best of luck with that clutch. I have a thing for perfectly banded Milk Snakes to the point of it being compulsive.

She is a looker.My male has a little bit zig zag pattern on him. 10 uncomplete rings ha ha. This is older photo.