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Well, I had to try!! When leaving the house yesterday morning I noticed a 3.5 foot black rat that had just been hit right in front of my mailbox. Sucks---happened between the time my wife left and I left, which was two minutes. Anyay, after ending any further suffering I noticed two crushed egg shells in the street and one more in her body. I palpated three "good" eggs from her lower half and out of the huge wound in her side. I placed them in my incubator and tried my luck. Today they are already starting to smell. Has anyone ever heard of someone getting eggs from a dying reptile and having them survive? Maybe they were not quite ready to be laid?

Joe

Years ago i had a splendida die just before she was suposed to lay so I pushed her 6 eggs out.......... They lasted for 30 days or so then withered away......... But I did cut 5 or so live babies out of a dor ribbon snake before 20 plus of their sibs were pancake snakes.........

I have heard of many trying to save eggs from eggbound females after their death with no luck.........
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Thanks for the reply John. I just thought there would be a chance due to the fact she was still alive seconds prior to their removal. Oh well, can't say I didn't give it a go. Good job on saving those babies by the way!!

Hi JasSiTER! Hi! What are you going to do toniht! And have you talk to Z yet! Your the Best! And I looked at your pitures you put up on in the KINGS SNAKES Forum! And they look prety great! Keep it up the great work and dont stop trying to do stuff! Are you on here to morow? I will look to see if you are! By!

>>Hi JasSiTER! Hi! What are you going to do toniht! And have you talk to Z yet! Your the Best! And I looked at your pitures you put up on in the KINGS SNAKES Forum! And they look prety great! Keep it up the great work and dont stop trying to do stuff! Are you on here to morow? I will look to see if you are! By!

Now this is getting weird.........LOL
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

There was this discussion on the field herp forum. It was very rare for those types of eggs to hatch, A couple of people said they did hatch a couple, but again, that was a rarity.

Most folks said turtles were regularly saved and hatched.

>>There was this discussion on the field herp forum. It was very rare for those types of eggs to hatch, A couple of people said they did hatch a couple, but again, that was a rarity.
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>> Most folks said turtles were regularly saved and hatched.

Yeah...a few of my turtle buddies told me they've saved turtle eggs from DOR turtles before........I've never heard of snake eggs being saved but I am sure if the timing is perfect it is certainly feasible......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Thanks Frank. I did not see that discussion. I, like John, think it probably can be done but has to be just the right time---like the eggs were going to be laid that day.

I agree with you, its about timing and in reality, if they were ready to lay, they would not be on the road, normally. I am sure it can happen, like they are disturbed at the nesting site.

I do lots of field work and we know what are very prejudiced nesters, and do everything they can do to be at a known nesting site. They are also there for a long period before they lay, normally from copulation on, or before shedding on. But then thats normally, there is always abnormal.

Its a darn good thing they normally stay at nesting sites or the roads would be littered with eggs.

You are so right Frank. By the way, I just checked on them and it seems only one egg was stinking up the container. However, we all know that most likely the other two shall start the process. But, they don't go in the drink until they stink!!! LOL. I did take a few pics of her just in case a miracle happens and one of them makes it. Be a good story anyway. Thanks for your input Frank.

Joe

I have tried to save alligator lizard and fence lizard eggs from animals that have just been killed by cats, but no luck. I think when the female lays her eggs they receive a coating of stuff that protects them against molds and sort of seals them up; a protective coating. Birds do that. So the eggs don't get the coating they need if they are excised instead of coming out of the vent normally. I don't have any idea why turtles would be different.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

Joe did say he palpated the eggs out of the vent, but maybe the process that initiates the coating was not ready to happen or could not happen because the snake was dead.
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Bob
Pyromaniac AKA Greatballzofire
Keeping cats allows man to cohabitate with tigers. Keeping reptiles allows man to cohabitate with dinosaurs.

Actually Bob, I pushed them out of the big hole in her side. Maybe I should have pushed them toward the vent. If I would have known what you just said about the coating I would have. I just used the easiest method to get it done fast as I was alrady late for a doctor appointment.

Joe

On rare occasions you can hatch eggs from dor animals. The C. constrictor pictured is an example of this. I recovered 4 eggs and one hatched. The animal was released in the same locality a few days after hatching.

Turtle eggs have much higher success rates, a friend of mine hatched baby musks from eggs that had been regurgitated from an E king.

Phil, that is so awesome. Gotta love it when you can save an animal that was doomed without your aid. Good on ya.

Joe

That really is phenomenal stuff man!, truth IS stranger than fiction any day of the week!!!..

~Doug
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I hatched out 1 turtle out of about 10 eggs I managed to collect from a speed bump yellowbelly slider....
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Michael Enriquez

I know a guy that did hatch eggs from roadkill...

box turtle egg hatched and I forget...maybe a terrapin ,couple eggs....the box had her face smashed in and he just noticed she was gravid....he thought she was alive actually...but after seeing her crushed he took the eggs from her ....a few years ago......

same guy had a friend call and in her yard there was a pile of eggs...right there on top of the grass out in the open..in the yard....racer eggs...weird laying spot....female was at edge of yard under a board...a better layijg spot...too late....anyways...he hatched them and released them also...

...so yes...roadkill has a chance....yours just weren't ready yet....I'd bet....
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........JY