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nipro_style Jul 16, 2011 01:30 PM

My first clutch date is due in two days and from 5 eggs (all viable-fertile) only 2 got dimpled! the rest (3 eggs) has vains but they didn't dimple!!! The current date is the 52'th day and I wonder why they didn't dimple and what to do? When to cut? HELP :S

Replies (8)

BAM_Reptiles Jul 16, 2011 01:32 PM

let em pip on their own. my first clutch to hatch this year didnt dimple at all, not one little crease whatsoever. 1 piped, cut the rest, everyone came out within the next day or two
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spinytail12 Jul 16, 2011 02:57 PM

What are your temps,could take longer to dimple.I would cut at 60 days if nothing has pipped yet.If there is too much moisture they may not be able to pip and drown.

Shane

nipro_style Jul 16, 2011 02:59 PM

31.6 Celsius

If one will pip, should I cut the rest?

EmberBall Jul 17, 2011 02:06 PM

31.6 does not help, we don't do metric and 31.6 degrees to us would be freezing

Dave

JYohe Jul 16, 2011 03:13 PM

......worry on day 65?
......unless they still look good
...then don't worry then either....

........ball eggs take 60 days to hatch at 89 degrees....regardless of how many thousands we actually have pip at 52 days....yea...I know ....

....I had 1 at 52....2 of it's brothers at day 53....1 at 54....2 at 55....and one holdout at a couple days after that.....a fat egg ,way too full and not deflated at all....turned out to be the prettiest pastel het clown in the bunch...and it pipped on it's own....

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Watever Jul 16, 2011 09:58 PM

Just wait a little longer. I know it's hard but that's part of it.

Leave the clutch alone. Easier to say then do when it's your first clutch.

You could always cut once the first or two have pipped, but I wouldn't do it sooner. If you made a miscalculation or something, you wouldn't know what to do yet.

I would just keep it like that and wait. Some eggs dimble more than others.

Are they still all stuck together or you can split them ?
If first, it mean you are not even at day 52 or it will take even more time for them to hatch, so don't cut them.

Just WAIT is my best thing to say
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ssnakes Jul 17, 2011 09:24 AM

Day 52 is way too early. Have patience and wait. If you cut too early you could have grave consequences.

BrandonSander Jul 18, 2011 12:20 AM

It is too early to worry about your clutch. If they are all alive (no black/green/purple/brown mold and you can see veins) then you are doing just fine.

I've had clutches that never dimpled while others were dimpled almost from the first week (even with nearly 100% in their egg boxes). Dimpling is really a pretty weak indicator of the snake's readiness to hatch. Don't count on it to mean anything.

Your temps are at 88.8 degrees which is just fine. Right now, I wouldn't worry about anything if I were you. Stick it out until they start to pip - you waited this long, I'm sure you can wait a little longer. Remember they actually are supposed to incubate for 60-65 days on average at those temperatures, the thing that is so confusing and frustrating to new people in this hobby is that the trend has been to cut open your eggs earlier and earlier every year.

Wait until day 65 (if they last that long without pipping). I've had them take until day 67 before the first one pipped. There is nothing wrong with your clutch.

Oh, and as far as the post about them pipping and then possibly drowning.... disregard that. I've NEVER seen or heard of ANY snake, lizard or ANY other animal that hatches from an egg EVER drowning in it's own fluids. Chances are that person encountered a baby that was able to pip but died in the egg due to either an internal deformity or a twisted umbilical cord (which happens every now and then). If the umbilicus gets twisted it may cut off the hatchlings yolk supply (they still have a rather large amount of yolk to absorb even after they pip), since it takes a lot of energy to pip and hatch, a twisted umbilicus would essentially starve the baby to death. The only way to tell if this is a possible problem is if all of the other clutch mates have left their eggs and you still have one in it's egg (pipped of course) a day or so later.

For now, don't worry about that, though. IF it does come to that, you can always email me and I can send you detailed instructions to follow that have ALWAYS worked for me to help save the hatchling. Some people say that a twisted umbilical cord is basically a death sentence. I call that laziness. It's simple to untwist the cord, but it does require you to follow some specific instructions and have steady, gentle hands.

Email me if you need any extra help...

sander DOT brandon AT gmail DOT com

You know what to do.

Good luck!

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