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Hatchling genetics help.

krfun Jul 16, 2011 04:43 PM

Much thanks to DMong, a123fish, Denbar and Draybar for answering all my egg questions.

I have 2 hatchlings out and 7-8 to go. I am very curious about one egg that looks viable but is at least 2-3 times bigger than any of the other eggs. The big one hasn't pipped yet.

My question is about the hatchlings genetics. They are from an okeetee female X Amber male.

Not sure if the Okeetee was het for anything. I assume all the hatchlings will have the okeetee phenotype but what will they be het for?

Thanks

Replies (6)

a153fish Jul 16, 2011 06:13 PM

If it is truely Amber then those babies will be 100% het for Hypo, and Caramel. Since that is what an Amber consists of. Now if the Okeetee is het for some unknown gene then it could put a twist on things. Good Luck! That larger egg may have absorbed more water than the rest? I hate giving this advice but I usually cut a slit in any egg that hasn't cut by the time all the others have left their eggs. Just a tiny slit right on top in case the snake has trouble doing it for some reason. I use an exacto knife and I'm super carefull not to let the blade go any deeper than the shell.
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DMong Jul 16, 2011 07:56 PM

Sure thing man!

I second exactly what Jorge said about the outcome of the offspring. Without knowing the precise genotype of the parents it is impossible to REALLY know what they will actually produce, but going ONLY by their outward phenotype look of normal wild-type Okeetee x Amber(hypo x caramel)the babies will ALL be normal 100% double het for hypo and caramel.

~Doug
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denbar Jul 16, 2011 08:01 PM

What every body else said. By the way let us know what happens with the last egg.

--Dennis

krfun Jul 18, 2011 06:13 PM

I put a small cut in the last 5 eggs including the huge one. The big egg was full of clear liquid under some pressure and an almost fully formed but dead snake. The other eggs have what look like live hatchlings and one started exiting the egg as soon as i slit it put retreated. I put these back in the incubator.

One of the hatchlings has several kinks in its spine and is very spastic when moving. I will most likely put this one down. Any suggestions on the most humane way to do this?

mrkent Jul 19, 2011 11:44 PM

Freezer.
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.10 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

mrkent Jul 19, 2011 11:46 PM

Btw, sorry about the kinked one and the dead in egg. Sounds like 4 of my alterna eggs. 10 healthy babies 2 weeks ago, and four dead in egg. They were fully formed, and one was much larger, due to excess water absorbtion is my guess.
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.10 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

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