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How is this for a large 03 corn? My male Butter (in shed) 12 weeks old and eaten about 15 meals.

Male Lavender almost three months old. About twenty meals. He is on fat fuzzy's already

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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

I know you say you haven't had problems, but it always pains me to see you feeding your snakes such big meals.

Then again I feed my snakes less than most of you guys. My 2002s are just now getting a hopper per meal and my 2001 is still on weanlings.

At least you have some good feeders. A friend of mine has only gotten his 2003 corn to eat once a month. It's a very picky eater.

Out of curiosity, do you think your corns don't have a problem eating/digesting larger than normal meals because you don't handle them? I'm wondering if that's the main reason people have problems with their corns regurgitating. In other words, the corns are made to handle large prey, they just aren't made to handle being picked up and played with after that large of a meal.

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1.0 '01 Hypo snow cornsnake (Tesla)
0.1 '02 Ghost (pastel) cornsnake (Banshee)
1.1 '02 Bloodred cornsnakes (Desi and Luci Too)
0.0.3 Goldfish (Kabuki, Isamu, and Yuki)
1.0 American Eskimo mutt (Rusty)

My corn eats 3 pinkies and is only 8 inches long, hatched last week. I don't see a problem with feeding large meals if they digest and crap before feeding them again. All my snakes are healthy and I feed them a new meal every time they crap. I also hold my snakes every other day and have never had problems of regurging.
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You gotta be underestimating that length...

This corn just ate 1 tiny newborn pinkie. It was a little over 9" (measured with snake measurer program). There's no way it could handle 3x that amount.

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3 pinkies a week I didnt say three at a time.
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"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." -Charles Darwin

"I am turned into a sort of machine for observing facts & grinding out conclusions"-Charles Darwin

"Man with all his noble qualities, with sympathy which feels for the most debased, with benevolence which extends not only to other men but to the humblest living creature, with his god-like intellect which has penetrated into the movements and constitution of the solar system- with all these exalted powers- Man still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin." -Charles Darwin

"A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, -- a mere heart of stone" -Charles Darwin

"The fact of evolution is the backbone of biology, and biology is thus in the peculiar position of being a science founded on an improved theory, is it then a science or faith?" -Charles Darwin

it's okay I guess. My largest 03 is 28 grams now (b. 7-01-03), the smallest is 18, all had 3-6 pinks(4 day schedule), moved to fuzzies for 6-8 meals(4-5 day schedule), and have been on hoppers for the last month(switched at about 65 days old and moved to a 7 day schedule). All my 02's have been on adults(20-25gr) since early April, jumbo adults(35 grams) for the last 2 months , and weigh in at 180-250 grams. A female corn at 24 months old that is under 300 grams I would consider to be small, under 250 grams I would consider it under fed. Even neonates are raiders in the wild, seldom do they get prey off the 'game trail'. They usually enter rodent nests eating several items at a time if they can be trapped, Corns can easily take prey 2-3 times their thickness because this behavior is common in the wild. There are species that prefer smaller items and will get regurge syndrome if fed too large items, but corns are not one of them.

>>Out of curiosity, do you think your corns don't have a problem eating/digesting larger than normal meals because you don't handle them? I'm wondering if that's the main reason people have problems with their corns regurgitating. In other words, the corns are made to handle large prey, they just aren't made to handle being picked up and played with after that large of a meal.
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

I don't know where my reply went but I wrote something like it looks larger in the picture because I take the pic from angle to make it look spectaculair. The fuzzy's are not that large.

Marcel

>>>>Out of curiosity, do you think your corns don't have a problem eating/digesting larger than normal meals because you don't handle them? I'm wondering if that's the main reason people have problems with their corns regurgitating. In other words, the corns are made to handle large prey, they just aren't made to handle being picked up and played with after that large of a meal.
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>>Marcel Poots (Holland)
>>'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

From what I can see in the picture posted, the prey item does not look to be too big. Yes there is alot of stretching going on as it swallows, but look at what's left of the mouse in comparison to the body. After all, that's where we judge the prey's size, correct? The thick part of the body.

>>From what I can see in the picture posted, the prey item does not look to be too big. Yes there is alot of stretching going on as it swallows, but look at what's left of the mouse in comparison to the body. After all, that's where we judge the prey's size, correct? The thick part of the body.
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

...is already eating weanlings. (Ok, so it's the one I got from Serpwidgets, but still... ) All the keepers I've hatched myself have been on fuzzies for a few weeks, too. Now I just need to get all of my purchases from other breeders to eat larger stuff... most of them are still on two pinks per feeding.

Here's the aforementioned hatchling, a day after eating his first weanling. '03 male Amel het Opal from Serpwidgets.

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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."

Wow, he is a large dude He must be a few months old then. Nice pattern too. On the end I see some frosted signs.. Nice.

>>...is already eating weanlings. (Ok, so it's the one I got from Serpwidgets, but still... ) All the keepers I've hatched myself have been on fuzzies for a few weeks, too. Now I just need to get all of my purchases from other breeders to eat larger stuff... most of them are still on two pinks per feeding.
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>>Here's the aforementioned hatchling, a day after eating his first weanling. '03 male Amel het Opal from Serpwidgets.
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>>"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
>>"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."
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Marcel Poots (Holland)
'Where is your crown King Nothing?' James Hettfield

Yeah, he hatched in the April-May timeframe. Still, he eats like a piggy. He's also extremely friendly. Gotta love that.

-Kat
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"You keep WHAT in your freezer?"
"Mice. And rats. If that bothers you, I can call them 'cows' instead."