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My friend at Rare Serpents has been working with a specific locality of green-phase Dusty Hogs for the last few years. Last year he bred a normal male to his female green-phase and produced a clutch that was half green-phase and half normal. This led us to believe that his green-phase hogs might actually be carrying a co-dom for the trait.

So, he bred back one of the green-phase offspring to the mother and produced an interesting mix in a clutch of 10 eggs, which yielded the approximate 1:2:1 ratio one would expect from a co-dom x co-dom breeding.

This is the female that produced both clutches

And this is the male he bred to her to prove out the co-dom cross.

He produced 2 normal looking hogs

There were 5 green-phase hogs.

And finally three hogs which we believe to represent the superform were produced.

This is the best looking of the three, so I took a picture both with and then without the flash to get a real feel for what these snakes look like.

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It is also really interesting that these hogs have a a strong trend in exhibiting twin-spotting. It's a really cool project he's working on. And although I'm a large colubrid guy myself, I always enjoy photographing his hogs for him.
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Very nice. Green, Red and Yellow are more like line bred traits than a true co-dom/dom trait.

Good luck with the project.

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Greg Bennett - Western Hognose Morphs
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They are great looking greens but I must be missing something... I do not see how you can come to the conclusion of this being a new co-dominant morph when the results you have shown can be produced through color forms that are not co=dominant... Line traits can work much like recessive, dominant, and co-dominant genes...

Not trying to take the steam out of the project but you should come with more than some variations in green color from a clutch or two if you are gong to claim it a new co-dominant morph...

I don't know where some of you guys get the idea that you have Dusty hognose. I saw someone advertising Dusty's from New Mexico. They are not found anywhere near New Mexico. According to Dixon, a gloydi should have few than 32 blotches (snout to vent) in males and fewer than 37 blotches in females. Its range is the Eastern 1/3 of Texas, with populations in Eastern Oklahoma, Eastern Kansas, and a few isolated populations in Missouri and possibly elsewhere EAST. I have asked on this forum on several occasions for information on anyone breeding gloydi with no response. I am breeding these snakes and have for about 20 years. It bothers me greatly when someone misrepresents animals, either intentionally or unintentionally. The same type of discussion has been heating up on the alterna forum for about a week. Please do not misrepresent your animals.

Here some examples of true "Dustys"

It seems as though its getting harder and harder to find those who keep and breed "pure/locality" genetics...... very unfortunate

Apparently its getting harder for some to tell the difference between line traits and co-doms...