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Communal Housing

Tony D Jul 20, 2011 08:57 AM

Not to stir the pot but I am thinking of re-organizing my collection and caging such that I would keep animals in inter-species settings. As an example I would have two - 2' X 3' X 2' cages. In one I would keep a male alterna and a male bairds rat. In the other I would keep the females.

Anyone have any experience keeping animals like this? Incites would be appreciated.
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Replies (18)

BobS Jul 20, 2011 09:52 AM

Hi Tony.

Not very helpful but I knew someone that kept an eastern milk and a corn snake together. I think it was out of inexperience but they didn't encounter any problems.

daveb Jul 20, 2011 12:33 PM

i think if you house species that utilize space/ resources in different manners you could be very successful.

i always used to cringe at zoos that housed several species together, but maybe its not so bad...
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CrimsonKing Jul 20, 2011 12:38 PM

"Incites would be appreciated"
umm...your Freudian slip is showing...

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rtdunham Jul 21, 2011 08:33 AM

>>"Incites would be appreciated"
>>umm...your Freudian slip is showing...

That occurred to me, too, Mark. On this forum "incite" is the last word anyone wants to use.
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mbrawley Jul 21, 2011 04:28 PM

Yeah no kidding. Haven't we had enough of that already? Geez. What were you thinking? Hahahhaha!!!

Dobry Jul 20, 2011 02:27 PM

Hi Tony,

I took this picture the other day. This is on my property under a full 4 x 8 piece of plywood, yet look how close together they are. I wonder what they are doing? This is in a field with 5 foot tall grass hay and lots of other types of cover, and far from suburbia.

Enjoy!

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Dobry Jul 20, 2011 02:35 PM

What the?

I cannot explain why this pic is not posting. It makes not sense.

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FoxTurtle Jul 21, 2011 12:47 AM

It looks like you have ??? question marks in the file name. Don't do that.

Dobry Jul 21, 2011 11:03 AM

You the man. Thanks

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varanid Jul 21, 2011 11:32 AM

what the...is that a rubber boa and a garter?
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mrkent Jul 21, 2011 03:46 PM

In the Pacific Northwest it is not unusual to find under the same AC rubber boas, garters and gopher snakes.
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.10 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

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Dobry Jul 21, 2011 06:01 PM

I do not typically find rubber boas and pituophis together or even in the same areas(not saying it doesn't occur, just not what I have seen), but they are almost always associated with high density garter snake populations.

The other thing that is very consistent is where I find 1 snake, usually there are other snakes too, and I have lived in the midwest, southeast, east coast, and now the great pacific NW. Snakes tend to live in colonies or high density groups, with shared "common areas" that they frequent.
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pyromaniac Jul 20, 2011 07:46 PM

www.repticzone.com/forums/Bull-Pine-GopherSnakes/messages/2227899.html
I have a bunch of yearling western fence lizards living with a young skink. They are all about the same size and have plenty of crickets and space, so they seem to be getting along okay. The skink is very reclusive and likes to stay under things more than the fencies. One of the fencies is so tame she will take crickets from my fingers.
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Jlassiter Jul 21, 2011 09:46 AM

>>www.repticzone.com/forums/Bull-Pine-GopherSnakes/messages/2227899.html
>>I have a bunch of yearling western fence lizards living with a young skink. They are all about the same size and have plenty of crickets and space, so they seem to be getting along okay. The skink is very reclusive and likes to stay under things more than the fencies. One of the fencies is so tame she will take crickets from my fingers.

On that note....I do have some Green Anoles, Brown Anoles, Med. Geckos and a Ground Skink living together......They have been for almost two years now......I even have a blind snake in with them.....At least I think it's still in there....LOL

After throwing in many crickets and mealworms over the past couple years there is a breeding colony of both under the substrate. It's like a microhabitat within an aquarium...It is almost self sufficient but I do throw in dusted crickets at least once a week......If I ever decide to replace the substrate I am afraid all the microhabitat will be lost......
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mrkent Jul 20, 2011 09:51 PM

I have thought about putting my male corn with my male alterna. The corn at almost a year old is about the same size as my 3 year old alterna. I haven't tried it yet though.
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Kent

1.1 Hypo (het lavender, striped) corn snakes, 2010
1.2 Gray-banded king snakes, blairs phase, 2008
0.0.10 Gray-banded king snakes, 2011
1.1 Oregon rubber boas, w/c 2000 and something

Colossians 3:17

RichardHurtz Jul 21, 2011 08:02 AM

It can be done, but it's better to do it when the snakes are young and used to sharing space with other snakes. When the snakes are older and used to not having to share space, then all of a sudden you throw them in together it could cause them a lot of stress.

grnpyro Jul 21, 2011 09:05 AM

I had a 75 gallon aquarium at one point set up with one side having a pretty good stack of flagstone with gaps. In the cage I had a leucistic texas rat snake, sonoran gopher snake, and striped cal king.

It started as just the rat and gopher... then while cleaning a cage I placed the king in and there was no problem so I left him.

All Males.

varanid Jul 21, 2011 11:34 AM

I've done it with lizards and frogs. Not with snakes (just never had any comptabile stuff--putting a kingsnake in with any lizard would be a very short experiment!). It can work, but make sure they're close to the same size, have the same care requirements, etc. At least it worked with green anoles, brown anoles and green treefrogs.
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