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coach whips? recently saw a small king snake kill a huge racer i am not sure why the king snake did it could be because the racer tried to eat the king and it back fired or it could just be because the king wanted a bigger meal?

How common do king snakes go after larger racers and coach whips? anyone know? THe king tied itself in a bunch of knots around the big racers face and lung area so it was able to subdue much larger prey.

Mcreedy..is that you? I thought you left this forum forever?
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Well it happens, Once saw an 18 inch Shortailed snake, wrapped around the head and neck of a four foot black racer.

The racer was flopping and rolling and doing anything it could to get that little fella off of him.

In nature, those events are called, lessons. It teaches them what is and what is not part of your diet.

Last week I failed to wash my hands between handling my reticulated python and handling a speckled king...got a full on feeding response and all I could think was...

Gee maybe I should put you (the speck) in the retics cage? I'm morbidly curious but don't want the kingsnake getting hurt (the retic is a good 13' and probably 60 lbs or more).
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>>Well it happens, Once saw an 18 inch Shortailed snake, wrapped around the head and neck of a four foot black racer.
>> The racer was flopping and rolling and doing anything it could to get that little fella off of him.
>> In nature, those events are called, lessons. It teaches them what is and what is not part of your diet.

Maybe the kingsnake was just teaching the racer a lesson to let it know to always be scared of kings regardless of their size....
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

I know of a juvenile Eastern King that was a non feeder and was fed to a Yellowtail cribo. When checked on later the tiny Eastern had the Yellowtail on the ropes and almost dead. Same thing he was wrapped around the head and neck.

Lu

that is strange lucy because from what i ready indigo snakes prey on the largest king snakes in the wild which are florida king snakes i found that shocking i dont know how they manage to escape the deadly king snake neck/knot hold that kings use on other snakes, seems to wrap around the other snaeks lungs and choke them instantly but ive read many places that indigo do feed on them often.

An Indigo is a killer. They are voracious killers. they slam, tear, dunk, rip and destroy anything they can get a hold of and eat them without mercy or constriction.

I think the Indigo is the true honey badger.
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mussies are the true honey badgers actually they feed on cribos in the wild mussurana

I agree with bluerosy, Normally indigos grab, pin, and stretch a snake, you can hear the spine pop when they do.

on the otherhand, odd events happen, even mice have killed kingsnakes and rats pythons.

In these cases, its more about captivity then the snakes themselves.

But, as observed, weird things can happen, but to make rules about them is silly.

indigo snakes actuallly lack the courage of a king snake they are smarter than kings i have seen them interact with wild berms and they will not DARE attack a larger burm they just slither over top of the slughish burm and keep moving they do not attack snakes larger themselves the way a king or mussie does

OH YEAH! i love INDIGOS SNAKES to!

Maybe the smaller the King the harder time they have with it. I imagine they can whip a larger King off using its own weight etc... The smaller ones can dig in and hold on it seems.

Ive seen the same thing with a juvenile non feeding Eastern King. He was sacrificed to a juvenile YT Cribo also a non feeder. When left the Cribo had the Eastern in his mouth. An hour or so later the Eastern still in the Cribo's mouth had wrapped itself around the neck and head and was biting the top half of the cribos head lol. The Cribo was near death and had to be saved. The size difference between the two was huge. The Cribo was 24-30" and the King was 10-12" so it was kill or be killed I guess.

Lu

I posted and it didnt show up so I re-wrote the thing???

indigo snakes actuallly lack the courage of a king snake they are smarter than kings i have seen them interact with wild berms and they will not DARE attack a larger burm they just slither over top of the slughish burm and keep moving they do not attack snakes larger themselves the way a king or mussie does

they can kill kings cause of their masssive girth and huge jaws

Kingsnakes are alot like the Honey Badger...they just don't give a SH*T.

Honey Badger rocks!

I don't have any little snake/big snake stories, but I had a hilarious mishap a few weeks ago when feeding one of my small adult Brooks.
When I opened the rack to feed him, he shot out and missed the mouse entirely, flying completely out of the tub and landing on a huge tray of thawed rodents. He was in such a frenzy that he latched onto the first thing in front of his face: not one of the thirty or so mice, but a huge guinea pig that I had thawed for one of my boas.
He immediately constricted and pulled so hard trying to get his mouth around the thing that he tore its skin before finally letting go a few minutes later.
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