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These '08 Hypo Praries produced a clutch that threw 3 female hatchlings like the one posted below. Looks like a possible hybino ? They are not normal hypos, nor regular type albinos. Last year the hatchlings looked like this , plus a normal albino was in the group. So I'm guessing the adults are hypo het albino? This same female produced a second clutch this season with one good egg and it's due to hatch soon. A buddy of mine bred these, but I bought the adults and hatchlings from him, I'm just curious as to what may be going on with the genetics. He told me that these hatchlings look nothing like the hatchlings he purchased, as hypos, from the Bell's in '08. I'll keep ya posted if there's any interest in how this pans out.

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I don't know what a normal hypo looks like compared to that but it sure is nice!

i love the hypo calligasters, when i saw them in '08 they were WAY to rich for my blood, i wouldnt say yours are hybino though.
i dont see amel in the pics, i would imagine a double homozygot hybino would be screemin and easily discernable between either an amel or hypo alone. yours are HOT congrats and post more pics when you can imho calligasters are THE MOST underated of all the kings.

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Thomas, I agree with you 100 percent on the calligasters being the most overlooked snake around. I have a pair of het for nothing f-1's and love them. They are my go to snakes for kids to handle every time.

Joe

>>i love the hypo calligasters, when i saw them in '08 they were WAY to rich for my blood, i wouldnt say yours are hybino though.
>>i dont see amel in the pics, i would imagine a double homozygot hybino would be screemin and easily discernable between either an amel or hypo alone. yours are HOT congrats and post more pics when you can imho calligasters are THE MOST underated of all the kings.

I agree...VERY Underrated snakes and that isn't hybino......
A Hybino would be first Amelanistic with red eyes and I think that would cancel out the hypomelanism......

Still they are killer snakes....Congrats.......
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

I should ask this first....
Does that hatchling have red eyes?
I can't see them in the photo......

If it does then maybe......sorry if I jumped the gun.......lol
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John Lassiter
Poor planning and procrastination on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part...

Well, The hypo calligaster can be pretty variable, and I have seen some that look pretty similar to the darker orange one there. After all, it is the dark pigment ONLY that is affected, and any other colors in an individual snakes phenotype would be what you then are left with and see anyway.and as John said, you wouldn't be able to tell a hybino from an amel by mere looks alone because of the amelanism TOTALLY masking the hypo gene anyway. This is the very same issue with hybino Hondurans.

Now it IS certainly possible to produce hybinos since the amel gene is pretty common, but knowing what they are without proving them out by knowing what the parents specific genetics are, and seeing what is produced in a given clutch is virtually impossible.

I have to say those are very sharp looking snakes man!. At $700 bucks in 2007, it was a little much, but the snake I saw was freaking mind-blowing and looked just like your light one.

Thanks for posting your nice group, I really like those guys alot!..

~Doug
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Male parent is a known amel and hypo (masked) i.e. a "hybino"
Female parent is a hypo, het amel

Offspring would be predicted to be...

50.00%, Amel, Hypomelanistic (hybino)
50.00%, Hypomelanistic, Het for Amel

Then you would automatically know ALL the amels in the entire clutch were indeed hybinos

~Doug
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I don't think its hybino. In my experience with amel cals the neonates were more colorful than the adults too. I would expect the same with hypos. Still selective breeding should lead to a more colorful adults.
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Hypo het amel X hypo het amel yields all hypos, and the ones that look like amels are hybinos. A hybino shouldn't look dramatically duff from an amel, though subtle diffs may occur depending on the species and the nature of the phenotypes for A given species.